Checkraised on turn by defending TAG

bobdibble · #1 07-08-2005, 03:21 AM

I don't have a read other than stats on this one, but stats say that villian is a solid TAG. (He is a multitabler as well) I don't know much about his bluffing frequency.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.66 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.33 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero's plan?

Looking at this away from the table, unless villain is on the semi-bluff, I am f'd the majority of the time here and don't have odds to try to boat up.

I'm really not sure how to approach this part of the hand. All options seem to suck. Thoughts?

bobdibble · #2 07-08-2005, 02:35 PM

Bump. I can't believe that this is a clear cut decsion.

Help....

Fianchetto · #3 07-08-2005, 02:49 PM

Normally this would be a call down for me.

But yeah, thinking about it, a solid player probably has you beat here. The thing is could he make this turn raise with a lone ace (AT, AJ), maybe an ace and a nut draw, something like Ah9h ? Seems like AK/AQ would have three bet you preflop.

There is just enough doubt in my mind that I would be calling down. Hey, he may even have the same hand as you.

ike · #4 07-08-2005, 02:53 PM

I'd be too worried he has AT or AJ to fold here. If I were in his shoes I'd very inclined to c/r with these hands here in order to get hands like KJ, QJ, to fold with some outs. It does seem like all the hands other than JT that have you crushed should have 3bet preflop.

PokerBob · #5 07-08-2005, 03:28 PM

I call down. Your raise looks like a steal, and IMO he could just have an A here.

MrStretchie · #6 07-08-2005, 04:19 PM

Agree with others. I call down because
- he could be on hearts, a+hearts
- he could have kq
- Ax and thinks you're on the steal
- I can't fold 2 pair [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
ooh ooh..
- when in doubt, don't bet/fold

but I'd be expecting to lose

FrankTheTank · #7 07-08-2005, 04:27 PM

he just called pf. what is everyone so afraid of?

ike · #8 07-08-2005, 04:37 PM

If he's a solid player the fact that he just called shouldn't strictly eliminate any of AA, KK, QQ, 66, AK, or AQ. A6 or JT are likely.

FrankTheTank · #9 07-08-2005, 05:21 PM

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If he's a solid player the fact that he just called shouldn't strictly eliminate any of AA, KK, QQ, 66, AK, or AQ. A6 or JT are likely.

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Well sure it doesn't strictly elimate the possibility of a premium, but when I hear "multi-tabling TAG" I generally think ABC. I think folding here is just way too weak.

Stormwolf · #10 07-08-2005, 05:33 PM

does anyone like calling and raising the river?