Do you call this river push?

[Karak567]

I am just assuming from the way my opponent played this hand that he is a dumbass.

***** Hand History for Game 2296410747 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:13582498 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Saturday, July 02, 02:42:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 12696 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: jlcurlee21 ( $1890 )
Seat 3: KardonSeph ( $775 )
Seat 4: lickmynutz99 ( $895 )
Seat 5: simok ( $1185 )
Seat 6: TEAMTHC ( $845 )
Seat 9: hobbesy ( $775 )
Seat 10: andykatz66 ( $885 )
Seat 8: CTopher1117 ( $750 )
Trny:13582498 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to KardonSeph [ 8c 8d ]
>You have options at Table 12182 Table!.
CTopher1117 calls [15].
hobbesy calls [15].
andykatz66 folds.
jlcurlee21 folds.
golfnpoker88: gc
>You have options at Table 12182 Table!.
golfnpoker88: i guess
KardonSeph calls [15].
lickmynutz99 folds.
simok calls [5].
TEAMTHC checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, Jc, 8h ]
simok checks.
>You have options at Table 12183 Table!.
TEAMTHC bets [15].
CTopher1117 folds.
hobbesy folds.
KardonSeph raises [80].
simok folds.
TEAMTHC calls [65].
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
TEAMTHC checks.
KardonSeph bets [150].
TEAMTHC calls [150].
** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]
TEAMTHC is all-In [600]
KardonSeph is all-In [530]

[chisness]

i fold even though i think way too often does he actually have the T

[jon462]

Id say he is a dumbass, and he does have the 10.

[xLukex]

[ QUOTE ]
I am just assuming from the way my opponent played this hand that he is a dumbass.

***** Hand History for Game 2296410747 *****
NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:13582498 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Saturday, July 02, 02:42:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 12696 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: jlcurlee21 ( $1890 )
Seat 3: KardonSeph ( $775 )
Seat 4: lickmynutz99 ( $895 )
Seat 5: simok ( $1185 )
Seat 6: TEAMTHC ( $845 )
Seat 9: hobbesy ( $775 )
Seat 10: andykatz66 ( $885 )
Seat 8: CTopher1117 ( $750 )
Trny:13582498 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to KardonSeph [ 8c 8d ]
>You have options at Table 12182 Table!.
CTopher1117 calls [15].
hobbesy calls [15].
andykatz66 folds.
jlcurlee21 folds.
golfnpoker88: gc
>You have options at Table 12182 Table!.
golfnpoker88: i guess
KardonSeph calls [15].
lickmynutz99 folds.
simok calls [5].
TEAMTHC checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, Jc, 8h ]
simok checks.
>You have options at Table 12183 Table!.
TEAMTHC bets [15].
CTopher1117 folds.
hobbesy folds.
KardonSeph raises [80].
simok folds.
TEAMTHC calls [65].
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
TEAMTHC checks.
KardonSeph bets [150].
TEAMTHC calls [150].
** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]
TEAMTHC is all-In [600]
KardonSeph is all-In [530]

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm going to try and make sense of this hand.

Flop is a rainbow, so there are no busted flush draws.

Villain limped, meaning a higher set is totally out, same with TT, as his line would be straight stupid there.

The flop didn't bring a straight so it's not one of those situations where villain slowplays a QT straight.

Villain is in the BB, which opens the range up very widely.

The fact that he called the flop makes me think that he doesn't have a ten...but then again KT and JT are very common too.

I would have to put him on KJ, JT, or KT. Could 9T be a possibility here too?

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 9T.

I have a feeling you were beat here. (Yeah, I realize I said he didn't have the ten, but now I think he does!)

Villains with OESDs typically bet a small amount hoping they won't get raised and will get a free card.

He may be a total and complete donk, which is why he called the turn bet.

The fact that he called the turn bet makes me think KT or JT.

Jesus, please give me results before I hemorrage.

[Karak567]

Villain had QTos.

[Matt R.]

I don't see where he played his hand badly. He was double-gutted on the flop. His turn check/call and his lead out on the river could have been meant to confuse you and induce a call, which obviously worked in this case. I know the results already, so I cheated, but I fold the river when he overbets the pot. But even so, I would think he has the 10 a vast majority of the time.

[Karak567]

[ QUOTE ]
I don't see where he played his hand badly. He was double-gutted on the flop. His turn check/call and his lead out on the river could have been meant to confuse you and induce a call, which obviously worked in this case. I know the results already, so I cheated, but I fold the river when he overbets the pot. But even so, I would think he has the 10 a vast majority of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]

He proved his donk-ness when he minbet the flop.

[adanthar]

When he minbets and calls a raise, it usually means 'I have a K or a draw'. I still call the river but warning bells should be off on the turn and if he leads a blank river for (less than your stack) you should often - though not always - just be calling it.