A few hands looking for your thoughts

HoldemMike · #1 06-23-2005, 08:47 PM

ALright...this is my first post here so I just have a few hands that I would like your imput on, more will come later I'm sure.

*Notes...hands are from separate tables, and reads are minimle on all villains, game is $25 No limit*

Hand 1

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($37.65)
SB ($26.65)
Hero ($46.7)
UTG ($24)
UTG+1 ($15)
UTG+2 ($20.75)
MP1 ($45.35)
MP2 ($6.15)
MP3 ($24.25)
CO ($9.77)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.50.

Flop: ($2.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $2.

Turn: ($6.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP1 raises to $8, Hero calls $4.

River: ($22.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks.

Final Pot: $22.35

Results in white below: 
Hero has Qc Ad (one pair, aces).
MP1 has Th Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $22.35. 

Hand 2

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($25)
UTG ($6.4)
UTG+1 ($22.38)
UTG+2 ($14.25)
MP1 ($76.98)
MP2 ($22.9)
MP3 ($23.7)
CO ($74.28)
Hero ($22.9)
SB ($20.77)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, CO raises to $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.75, MP1 calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, CO bets $2, Hero raises to $6, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, CO calls $4.

Turn: ($16.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: ($16.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets $4, Hero calls $4.

Final Pot: $24.35

Results in white below: 
CO has Ac As (two pair, aces and eights).
Hero has Ts Js (two pair, tens and eights).
Outcome: CO wins $24.35. 

Hand 3

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($39.4)
UTG+1 ($0)
Hero ($35.95)
MP2 ($7.25)
CO ($8.62)
Button ($54.15)
SB ($30)
BB ($8.97)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Button calls $0.75, SB (poster) calls $0.65, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.5, Button raises to $4, SB raises to $6.5, Hero folds, Button raises to $9, SB calls $2.50.

Turn: ($22) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Button checks.

River: ($22) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $22

Results in white below: 
UTG+1 doesn't show.
CO doesn't show.
Button has Th 8h (one pair, tens).
SB has 8c Td (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Button wins $11. SB wins $11.

Dhani · #2 06-23-2005, 08:54 PM

That last hand was ridiculous. Why didn't you call?

xorbie · #3 06-23-2005, 09:51 PM

How the hell is he supposed to know?

Played all 3 hands exactly like I would.

kurto · #4 06-23-2005, 10:32 PM

I know these are 'small notes' but-
Hand 1 and 2 are fine.

One question about hand 1- what was your plan if he bet on the river?

Hand 3- I know this is a matter of opinion, but raise to $1 preflop. I know it seems to not make a big difference but most people's standard raises are more then 3xbb. If you're going to call 4bb raises, then you should also raise that amount. If there are a lot of limpers, raise it even more.

Second- bet the pot. I find that many people, particularly at the lower tables see less then a pot sized bet as a sign of weakness inviting more bluffs. Also, you want to train people so that they know if they're going to stay in a hand with you, they're going to have to pay. Also, with a possible flush and straight draw on the board, you want to charge people for draws. With all the draws, I might have bet a flat $3.

Last- regarding their reraise, how to play that is really read dependent. Many aggressive players will raise when they hit thinking you have overcards. Also, many will raise with flush draws to try to earn a free card and to inflate the pot if they hit. Once you know the basics of the game, learning how the other people at the table play (IMO) is the single best thing you can do to improve your game.

(I watch players... many players always bet the pot if they're stong and bet less then the pot if they're scared. I may have read your bet for weakness and reraised you here with top pair or even an underpair.)

Knowing your opponents played this way with those hands should be information you can use against them.