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06-22-2005, 03:38 AM
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Re: some c/r examples?
This is not a hand, sorry, and I know you know this but I just want to write something [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
The simplest one I know is when you have middle pair and overcard kicker, you usually should go for a c/r. If it gets checked through, that ain't so bad. If the guy next to you bets and no one raises, you have great odds to call. If the guy in late potion bets, you have great chance to raise and make the others fold. And with top pair I usually go for c/r if there was a raise and I cold-called. I hope someone with more expertize would write in this thread. This might be a good one! 
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#3
06-22-2005, 03:48 AM
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Re: some c/r examples?
There isnt really a "rule" as to when to checkraise. It's mostly a mean to an end, and not the other way around. What do you want to do? Kick people out of the pot? Build a big pot? What is likely to happen if you check? Did someone raise on the previous street and is likely to bet again? How dangerous is giving a free card if no one bets? etc etc SSHE is full of examples & theories on this
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#4
06-22-2005, 05:20 AM
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Re: some c/r examples?
Easy. You are SB with 55, 4 limpers, you complete, BB raises.
Flop comes AT5r, you check to BB who bets, and then you raise when it comes back around. --- With marginal hands, say you have K6 in the BB, 4 limpers, SB completes. Flop comes K94r. You should check, and plan to raise a late position bettor.
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#5
06-22-2005, 05:26 AM
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Re: some c/r examples?
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With marginal hands, say you have K6 in the BB, 4 limpers, SB completes. Flop comes K94r. You should check, and plan to raise a late position bettor. [/ QUOTE ] Do you really need to C/R here? The pot is fairly small, no possibility of straight/flushes. Why not open bet? The pot isnt big but why let someone a chance to improve to 2pairs/pair of aces/profitable draws if it gets checked through? Although the board really isnt that dangerous here, what are the pros of C/R vs the cons of open betting?
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#6
06-22-2005, 05:28 AM
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Re: some c/r examples?
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[ QUOTE ] With marginal hands, say you have K6 in the BB, 4 limpers, SB completes. Flop comes K94r. You should check, and plan to raise a late position bettor. [/ QUOTE ] Do you really need to C/R here? The pot is fairly small, no possibility of straight/flushes. Why not open bet? The pot isnt big but why let someone a chance to improve to 2pairs/pair of aces/profitable draws if it gets checked through? Although the board really isnt that dangerous here, what are the pros of C/R vs the cons of open betting? [/ QUOTE ] Your hand is vulnerable and not that strong, so you want to thin this field so your hand has a better chance of holding up. Also, if it comes back to you for 2 bets, you can usually fold. If it were like 2 players, then it would be much better to bet. EDIT: check/raising is also good for MP/TK.
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#7
06-22-2005, 05:32 AM
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Re: some c/r examples?
What if the bet comes from early position? He might have a better king, maybe not. Do you call down here? I wouldnt be very comfortable here without a very strong read on the bettor's tendencies, which I dont often have.
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#8
06-22-2005, 06:03 AM
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Re: some c/r examples?
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What if the bet comes from early position? He might have a better king, maybe not. Do you call down here? I wouldnt be very comfortable here without a very strong read on the bettor's tendencies, which I dont often have. [/ QUOTE ] Yes. EDIT: actually, you might still consider raising.
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#9
06-22-2005, 06:16 AM
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Re: some c/r examples?
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The simplest one I know is when you have middle pair and overcard kicker, you usually should go for a c/r. If the guy in late potion bets, you have great chance to raise and make the others fold. [/ QUOTE ] And then lead out on the turn, correct? Joe
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#10
06-22-2005, 08:32 AM
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Re: some c/r examples?
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can someone post some hands that have good c/r in them (and explain why its good?) i seem to do the wrong street or wrong hand. losing tonight is pissing me off. thanks [/ QUOTE ] Check-raising usually involves a couple of things - 1) An idea of what you're trying to accomplish with your check-raise whether as a a) pot-building move or b) pot-protecting move. There are plenty of examples abound for both. 2) An idea of who specifically you're going to raise. Usually this is indicated by some sort of aggression on the previous street or a strong read.
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