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Old 06-19-2005, 10:00 AM
ALL1N ALL1N is offline
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Default A first!!!

I've been waiting to make this move since I started playing. SB thought for a bit before mucking, so here's hoping he had JJ/99!

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (12 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Kh Jh (high card, king).
Hero has 8d 9d (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 18 BB. </font>
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Old 06-19-2005, 11:23 AM
Mig Mig is offline
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Default Re: A first!!!

ok I strart 30/60 today ! hehe
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Old 06-19-2005, 11:43 AM
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Default Re: A first!!!

Good read on the BB!

I was going to make a similar post today -- not the first time I've pulled this off, but I can count the times on one hand. Definitely a pro move, I need to have the guts to make it more often. Smelled like AK to me.

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Preflop: "Hero" is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">"Hero" 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, SB calls, "Hero" calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">"Hero" bets</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">"Hero" raises</font>, CO folds, SB calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, "Hero" checks.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Th Ks (one pair, threes).
"Hero" has As Qc (one pair, threes).
Outcome: "Hero" wins 11.50 BB. </font>

Maybe CO folded a worse hand, but I doubt it.

For what it's worth, sometimes I 3-bet from the BB here, sometimes I don't. Have no idea which is best -- I don't remember CO that well but I had no reason to believe that his was a loose raise. Was 95% sure that I was ahead of SB, though.
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Old 06-19-2005, 11:59 AM
Zygote Zygote is offline
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Default Re: A first!!!

[ QUOTE ]
I've been waiting to make this move since I started playing. SB thought for a bit before mucking, so here's hoping he had JJ/99!

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (12 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Kh Jh (high card, king).
Hero has 8d 9d (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Hero wins 18 BB. </font>

[/ QUOTE ]

what move did you make? i'm very confused...
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Old 06-19-2005, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: A first!!!

He raised a hand he felt was worse to fold a better hand.
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Old 06-19-2005, 12:04 PM
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He raised a hand he felt was worse to fold a better hand.

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can't really understand what you are saying here either [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 06-19-2005, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: A first!!!

BB has bet a worse hand on the river and Hero knows this. Hero raises BB to fold SB who has a better hand than both of them.
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