Two pair on a Royal flop.

Joel_Fish · #1 06-18-2005, 03:23 PM

I've been thinking about this hand for a while now. My analysis is at the bottom, what do you think of it?

MP1 is leaning towards LP after 30 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button raises, 2 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

(6 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, MP1 3-bets, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.25 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.

River: (12.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

Analysis
With the PF raiser to my immediate right, my plan had been to c/r the flop to attempt to protect my hand. Unfortunately the bet came from the wrong place, which really threw me. I (now) think this is an example of not being able to protect my hand on the flop. So in hindsight, I should have called the flop, and prayed for non-club 8 or lower, and then (god willing) c/r the turn.

Assuming I take that line, when the 4th club hits on the turn, can I fold if I'm not getting 10.5:1?

silkyslim · #2 06-18-2005, 03:29 PM

i like pushing your edge when it is larger on the flop like you said in hindsight. also, i would fold the turn

AlmightyJay · #3 06-18-2005, 03:52 PM

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i like pushing your edge when it is larger on the flop like you said in hindsight. also, i would fold the turn

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Folding the turn is wrong. You have four outs to a boat and you're getting 11:1.

I do fold this river though. I think MP1 has a flush very close to 100% of the time here.

I also fold this preflop.

silkyslim · #4 06-18-2005, 04:11 PM

i need to look at the hands more closely.... ATo is a fold UTG according to SSH tight game table. I like just calling the flop 3 bet. Turn i stand corrected you have 2 A's and 2 T's to fill up, so u need 10.5-1 and are getting 11.25-1, so call. Then, you didnt boat on the river, so my faulty reasoning on the turn becomes correct. fold the river.

Joel_Fish · #5 06-18-2005, 04:23 PM

ATo UTG is playable in loose conditions according to SSH, so I'm fine with that play.