I don't even know how to play the basics anymore

brassnuts · #1 06-17-2005, 06:37 PM

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

No read.

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7 BB

SomethingClever · #2 06-17-2005, 06:40 PM

Is this a turn fold against non-maniacs?

imported_CaseClosed326 · #3 06-17-2005, 06:42 PM

For me it is.

Grisgra · #4 06-17-2005, 06:45 PM

I am embarrassed to say that I often play this the same way. The turn is the trickiest, you probably have 7 outs (I think a strong ace like AQ or AK 3-bets you pf, and KQ waits until the turn to raise, so I think all of your Ace-outs are clean) and you're getting 5:1 on the turn call. With your implied odds, plus the chance that something like JT or a random ace gives up on the turn if he misses . . . it's not a horrible horrible turn call.

So I guess we both suck.

EDIT: Against a non-nut I don't call the river unless I'm playing kind of sucky, or want to make a statement that I Will Not Be Bluffed. Only thing I crack is JTo, AT, or AJ.

pecto · #5 06-17-2005, 06:45 PM

I either fold the turn againsy non maniac, or call down, not calling and folding!!

pshabi · #6 06-17-2005, 06:59 PM

Easy turn fold.

You aren't going to win every hand you know.

luckyharr · #7 06-17-2005, 07:13 PM

In order call the turn, you have to believe you have the best hand at least some of the time. It doesn't have to be a large percentage.

I assume you just joined the table (no reads.) Since you are probably going to tangle with this player a few more times in the next 50-200 hands, I may actually call the river for information, and to appear unbluffable.

brassnuts · #8 06-17-2005, 07:17 PM

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Easy turn fold. You should quit poker.

You aren't going to win any hands you know.

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FYP

MAxx · #9 06-17-2005, 07:55 PM

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No read.

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I fold turn.

You could actually have the best hand. You could be up a variety of stuff. You could be up against a TJ for example. In that case, you really don't want an ace for obvious reasons... but you wont know. But really, in most cases, I think you will have about 5.5 outs. So it's close. NOt a horrible call, but the river will be tough unless you strike a T.

Nigel · #10 06-17-2005, 08:57 PM

Folding here is weak heads up play IMO. You often have ten outs, and you fairly often are still ahead.

Nigel