How bad did I misplay tens?

[Scott_Baio]

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds.

Turn: (11 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (13 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

[Sarge85]

Looks ok to me Cha-Chi.

Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

[Stack]

Very good raise, very good fold.

[youdnf]

looks alright, you have to find out where you are in the hand, and thats place to do it, you were most likely beat im gussing?

[ihardlyknowher]

I would never fold that flop because MP3 could be pumping a flush draw and there is no reason to think SB definitely has you beat.

If an Ace or [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] falls on the turn or river and I see a lot of agression, then I am most likely gone.

[ihardlyknowher]

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Very good raise, very good fold.

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IMO, the fold is horrible because not only are we not sure he is beat, he is getting 20:1 on the call. With implied odds, that is enough to draw to his T.

[W. Deranged]

There is one problem here, namely, you actually HAVE to call the third bet on the flop. As it is, you are getting 21 to 1 closing the action on that bet. Given that, with all the action and the likely draw out, you are likely to make probably 4 BB or more on later streets if a ten hits on the turn, a call of that third bet will be significantly positive EV on the flop.

Otherwise, you're thinking is dead-on. Raise the flop largely for information, and use it to get out as early as possible. I just think that "early as possible" means on the turn, not to the third bet on the flop.

There are also some other game-play considerations against folding the flop to one bet at any point. Ed Miller points out that that is one of the things you can do at a SS table that encourages other players to take shots at you.