What to do, What to do?

[Drjekel]

Sitting at a new game - no reads as of yet.


$2/$4 Texas Hold'em
Dealt to Hero[ Jh ]
Dealt to Hero [ Kh ]
sh : Fold
ingIn: Fold
ieur: Fold
heat: Raise ($4)
Jake: Fold
Hero: Call ($4)
bert: Fold
ron : Fold
lly60 : Fold
rkie : Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ 2d Js 4s ]
heat: Bet ($2)
Hero: Raise ($4)
heat: Raise ($4)
Hero: Call ($2)
*** TURN *** : [ 2d Js 4s ] [ Ac ]
heat: Bet ($4)
Hero???????

[chief444]

Fold preflop.

Call the flop...don't raise.

Fold the turn...you lose.

[Padawan Learner]

Chief444

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Call the flop...don't raise.


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Are you looking to just call down the whole way and bet if checked to (unless an ace hits) or are you looking to raise a later street.

I agree about the preflop fold.

[JaysonWeberFCP]

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Fold preflop.

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Should have ended here, why are you calling this pre-flop? in a few situations with a read on a player I guess its fine but you said no reads...?

[belloc]

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Call the flop...don't raise.

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Hero shouldn't even be in this hand, granted, but now that he finds himself with this flop, why are you just calling here? Putting villain on AJ? No, that's too narrow. Putting villain on AA-QQ? No, a single preflop raise isn't enough to narrow an unknown to these hands. Two spades on board? No, why would you assume that's a threat?

Is it maybe the combinantion of all of these possibilities that makes you think you're beat here? Are you waiting for a safe turn card to raise, or just calling all the way down? Obviously when the A hits, he's probably beat and should give it up. But if the turn card is 8c, what's your action?

[chief444]

I'm liking my hand on the flop, don't get me wrong. But I want him to bet into me again with A-high when the bets double. I think too many people here go apeshit on little bet streets and fail to realize the value in waiting a street sometimes.

[belloc]

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I'm liking my hand on the flop, don't get me wrong. But I want him to bet into me again with A-high when the bets double. I think too many people here go apeshit on little bet streets and fail to realize the value in waiting a street sometimes.

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Okay, so it's just the opposite of what I was thinking you meant. At first it looked like you were unduly scared of his hand, and I couldn't tell why. I thought maybe some weak-tight friend of yours had stolen your account password.

[Grease]

Fold PF.

Call flop and wait for a good turn card.