Monster draw out of position

durron597 · #1 06-12-2005, 04:48 PM

Running very badly right now. Most of the time I check this to go for a check-raise.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (5 handed) converter

Hero (t1150)
BB (t1055)
UTG (t1450)
MP (t1470)
Button (t8375)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, 1 fold, Button calls t50, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t200) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

River: (t200) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks,

Jay36489 · #2 06-12-2005, 07:35 PM

On the river I treat this as a missed draw and check and fold to any real action. There are just too many people in and god knows what they have.

sxz18 · #3 06-12-2005, 07:40 PM

Bet flop.

lastchance · #4 06-12-2005, 07:42 PM

Even though I suck at postflop play, I think I do the same.. 3 opponents is a lot, and getting raised all-in here would suck. I think I play it the same.

valenzuela · #5 06-12-2005, 07:57 PM

I go all-in on the flop, this is what I call protecting your draw, bazilion outs.

adanthar · #6 06-12-2005, 07:59 PM

Bet the flop, bet the turn, you can safely fold the river to any bet over 50 but Jebus, you completed to catch something and you caught it so bet at some point.

edit: If I went for a CR with a straight flush draw, it would be on a better board for that than one where QJ still calls thinking he's the favorite against your AT.

valenzuela · #7 06-12-2005, 08:08 PM

Im confident going all-in is the best play. If you bet 200, u could get called which would be a disaster, your hand works much better if you can see the turn and the river right away. Lets suppose u bet 200, and u get called...u miss the turn ...qua, qua, qua, qua,qua, qua( sing at the rythm of when u lose in mario party).

durron597 · #8 06-12-2005, 08:25 PM

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I go all-in on the flop, this is what I call protecting your draw, bazilion outs.

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Go allin on the flop for 5x the pot?

lastchance · #9 06-12-2005, 09:26 PM

You really need to teach 2+2 (read: me) how to play postflop.

durron597 · #10 06-12-2005, 09:34 PM

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Bet the flop, bet the turn, you can safely fold the river to any bet over 50 but Jebus, you completed to catch something and you caught it so bet at some point.

edit: If I went for a CR with a straight flush draw, it would be on a better board for that than one where QJ still calls thinking he's the favorite against your AT.

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So if you moved all the cards down two notches you like the c/r better? Problem with betting is, what do I do if I get flatcalled? Unless I bet the full pot and move in on the turn?