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Old 06-07-2005, 01:41 AM
fluxrad fluxrad is offline
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Default Top pair. Then scare cards.

No reads yet. I just sat, I figured typical micro players...any ace will do.

Paradise Poker 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: (3.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot: 3.50 BB
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: Top pair. Then scare cards.

For god's sake, bet the turn! You showed a lot of aggression on the flop and now you have to follow through. If the villain is at all intimidated then now is the time to pull the trigger.
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: Top pair. Then scare cards.

Not betting the turn was a gigantic mistake. If he doesn't fold then I think you can check-call the river.

I just finished a week of playing the Paradise .25/.50 game, and you shouldn't give the players there any credit.
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:53 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: Top pair. Then scare cards.

I raise this preflop sometimes. Regardless of raising preflop or not, when the flop comes T52 and I'm holding QT 3-handed, I'm betting.
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: Top pair. Then scare cards.

That's a good point. Hero should bet the flop.
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Old 06-07-2005, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: Top pair. Then scare cards.

Oh. my. god. I didn't even notice that Hero check-raised the flop instead of betting it. I guess I just assumed that no one in their right mind would not bet this flop. I was wrong.
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Old 06-07-2005, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: Top pair. Then scare cards.

Well i am a newbie (only like 5k hands online and some books read Theory of Poker and some other 2+2 books) but here is my though of that flop.

The bettor might be on a semi-bluff-draw to a flush draw, i would for sure bet this flop with a hand like KQ of spades, maybe even a J9s (but raise pre-flop with KQs).

If that is the case you would get check raised the Turn (then you can throw away the hand).
Still i would bet that flop.

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Old 06-07-2005, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: Top pair. Then scare cards.

I bet the flop in this situation.

I would also bet the turn.
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Old 06-07-2005, 04:45 AM
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Default Re: Top pair. Then scare cards.

check raising the flop wont get a flush draw to fold and it could give a free card which would be pretty bad 3 handed. bet the turn, UTG may have a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or a number of straight or overcard outs.
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Old 06-07-2005, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: Top pair. Then scare cards.

[ QUOTE ]
For god's sake, bet the turn! You showed a lot of aggression on the flop and now you have to follow through. If the villain is at all intimidated then now is the time to pull the trigger.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree on betting the turn, but not to "follow through". Being aggressive on the flop doesn't mean you "have to" spew chips on later streets if there's no reason to.
Betting and folding to a raise on the turn seems like the best move though, I guess villain had JT?
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