Shorthanded .05/1

awsome008 · #1 05-27-2005, 03:12 AM

I have been trying to improve my shorthanded game at .05/1. I always seem to lose money when the table starts collapsing. But i do see a lot of lose horrible play when the table gets small. Here is an example SB is a very lose very Lag player. I have been playing with him for about 80 hands with him and he seems to just constantly bet. He had a VIPI of 72% when we were 10 handed.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero calls, 1 fold, SB raises, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (5 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has 8c 9c (two pair, nines and eights).
SB has 6s 7s (flush, queen high).
Outcome: SB wins 19.50 BB. 

Is limping in with 8/9 suited ok when we are shorthanded like this or should i come in for a raise ,or just fold? When i looked at this hand i felt like i was just spewing chips and i played it poorly but it is shorthanded so im not sure what to do. Ive read SSHE and have been doing well 10 handed almost at 10k hands to do a checkup.

ArturiusX · #2 05-27-2005, 03:28 AM

Never open limp here. I'd probably fold, maybe raise vs tight blinds.

irishpint · #3 05-27-2005, 03:31 AM

you cant open limp from late possition. either raise or fold this, depending on your reads of the players, your image and your postflop skills.

kapw7 · #4 05-27-2005, 03:38 AM

I would raise PF. Wouldn't raise the river.

SoftcoreRevolt · #5 05-27-2005, 04:00 AM

I would just fold this, the chances of finding tight blinds in .5/1 are as good as..

I dunno, something pretty unlikely.

McGahee · #6 05-27-2005, 08:11 AM

You're giving up way too much if you fold this in the CO in an unraised pot. It's true that raising > limping, but a limp is still better than a fold IMO.

adsman · #7 05-27-2005, 08:28 AM

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You're giving up way too much if you fold this in the CO in an unraised pot. It's true that raising > limping, but a limp is still better than a fold IMO.

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Whenever I see a player limp first in on the CO or the button I think to myself, 'Ah, a little pussycat fishy.' 99% of the time my initial read turns out to be correct.

kapw7 · #8 05-27-2005, 08:33 AM

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You're giving up way too much if you fold this in the CO in an unraised pot. It's true that raising > limping, but a limp is still better than a fold IMO.

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Whenever I see a player limp first in on the CO or the button I think to myself, 'Ah, a little pussycat fishy.' 99% of the time my initial read turns out to be correct.

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And what do you think when he takes a big pot with a straight or a flush?

I agree with open raising 89s but against calling stations limping is fine and folding is a mistake.