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Old 05-24-2005, 07:09 AM
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Default I think I play too tight

I played my first live poker (2/4)in a casino this weekend. The games were as loose as .2/.4 on stars: 6-10 to the flop with very little raising. I'm sure I can outplay just about all my opponents after the flop. Now the problem is, I don't think I'm playing enough hands to maximize the profitibiliy of these games. Here are some examples I'm not sure about:

4/5 limpers to me in MP2/MP3 with loose/passives to my left--87s-43s, T8s-53s, Q8s-96s, J7s, Kxs?

6-9 limpers to me in the SB, BB doesn't raise pf. What should I complete with (other than SSH reccomendations)?

3-5 limpers, CO raises, Button calls, SB calls (all the limpers will call too) and I have ATo, KJo, KTo, QJo-Q9o, or JTo-J9o, or smaller offsuit connector/one gapper in the BB ( getting something like 15-1 to call)? Should I play anything else (not in SSH reccomendations)?

7-10 limpers to me on the button with A9o, A8o, or offsuit connectors/ one gappers below JT (BB, SB never raise pf)?

Med./Sm. suited one,two and three gappers, Kxs, from BB with raise infront and fewer than five players to see the flop (which hands with x number of players, x type of players, raiser to left or right of me)?
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:29 AM
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4/5 limpers to me in MP2/MP3 with loose/passives to my left--87s-43s, T8s-53s, Q8s-96s, J7s, Kxs?

Personally, I'd call with any suited connector and Kxs. The 1/2/3 gappers, Id probably chuck em.

6-9 limpers to me in the SB, BB doesn't raise pf. What should I complete with (other than SSH reccomendations)?

Any 2 suited, any 2 connected, any 1-gappers

3-5 limpers, CO raises, Button calls, SB calls (all the limpers will call too) and I have ATo, KJo, KTo, QJo-Q9o, or JTo-J9o, or smaller offsuit connector/one gapper in the BB ( getting something like 15-1 to call)? Should I play anything else (not in SSH reccomendations)?

That sounds fairly complete, you might be getting in at 15:1, but if the pot is 12 BB (24 sb) at the end, you aren't getting paid 24:1 later, you're getting paid 24:2 later, so the reward doesn't match the risk, but it's cheap to try, so...

7-10 limpers to me on the button with A9o, A8o, or offsuit connectors/ one gappers below JT (BB, SB never raise pf)?

I might come in with A9 or A8, JT, i dunno about the 1-gappers.. Some suited 1-gappers are ok there.

Med./Sm. suited one,two and three gappers, Kxs, from BB with raise infront and fewer than five players to see the flop (which hands with x number of players, x type of players, raiser to left or right of me)?

This is a pretty broad question, there's too many combinations of what I will and won't call based on all these factors, and stats of players in.. I will say Kxs, I'm ok calling a raise in the BB with the raiser and 2 other for sure, maybe 1 other, depends on how tight the raiser is, and his aggro stats, and his position. Need flush draw or 2pair+ to continue,
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:59 AM
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6-9 limpers to me in the SB, BB doesn't raise pf. What should I complete with (other than SSH reccomendations)?

Any 2 suited, any 2 connected, any 1-gappers

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Ok, this one comes up all the time. Could you be a little more clear: how low would you go and how many limpers? I had Q9o with 8 limpers this evening--how about that?
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Med./Sm. suited one,two and three gappers, Kxs, from BB with raise infront and fewer than five players to see the flop (which hands with x number of players, x type of players, raiser to left or right of me)?

This is a pretty broad question, there's too many combinations of what I will and won't call based on all these factors, and stats of players in.. I will say Kxs, I'm ok calling a raise in the BB with the raiser and 2 other for sure, maybe 1 other, depends on how tight the raiser is, and his aggro stats, and his position. Need flush draw or 2pair+ to continue,

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Yeah...that was a pretty general question. What sparked this one was a Miller hand quiz where he called from the BB with 64s with a raiser + 3-4 CC'ers/limpers playing. The SSH guidelines would only have me play 43s and T8s-53s in loose games (6+ players to the flop).

Edit: I'm a donk. Here is the quiz I was referring to:[ QUOTE ]
You fold. The taciturn old man ends up winning again, this time after flopping an ace to his passively played ace-king. Next hand you have 64 in the big blind. Two players call, and a player who just sat down, playing his first hand, raises from one off the button. The button calls, and the World Poker Tour kid in the small blind folds. What should you do?

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Here is Ed's answer: [ QUOTE ]
Six-four suited is not a great hand, but you are getting 9.5-to-1 (assuming the limpers call), and your opponents play poorly. As a rule, you should usually call a single raise from the big blind with any suited connector as long as at least three others are in the pot. This hand is no exception.

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Old 05-24-2005, 08:14 AM
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Ok, this one comes up all the time. Could you be a little more clear: how low would you go and how many limpers? I had Q9o with 8 limpers this evening--how about that?


I might go for that, but that's getting borderline.. You're 16:1 against flopping 2pair+, and you're about getting it.

Yeah...that was a pretty general question. What sparked this one was a Miller hand quiz where he called from the BB with 64s with a raiser + 3-4 CC'ers/limpers playing. The SSH guidelines would only have me play 43s and T8s-53s in loose games (6+ players to the flop).

Well, 64s with a raiser and 3-4 CC/limpers, that's 5-6 players. That means you're getting 9:1 or 11:1 to call that, I'd go for that. Position is key, if you have the raiser on your immediate left, that helps, cuz you can pull off a great checkraise if you hit. If he's on your right, then when he bets, you're gonna knock players out with a raise, or you'll have to smooth call, which isn't getting the pot as huge as you like. Either way, you'll make less.
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