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View Poll Results: Which game has less variency?
Limit Holdem 9 20.93%
No-Limit Holdem 19 44.19%
Multi-table tourneys 3 6.98%
Single-table tourneys 7 16.28%
Short-Handed LHE 2 4.65%
Short-Handed NLHE 3 6.98%
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:23 PM
ZeeJustin ZeeJustin is offline
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Default Do you use GT+ or PV?

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Old 05-25-2005, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Do you use GT+ or PV?

I started using this about 3 months ago and it helps while multi-tabling. Even when not, it's nice to see preflop raise and VPIP numbers. Aggro factor by street is nice as well as some showdown stats.

Stats that would be great but aren't there yet would be amount of raises by street (% of pot), what type of hands are inside those ranges, etc.
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Do you use GT+ or PV?

Yes, and I mostly play 2/4 and higher [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I 6-table 6-max games. There's no way I could do it without GT+ (never tried PV).
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: Do you use GT+ or PV?

Anyone ever tried both GT+ and PV? I wonder which one to use for 4tabling 6max NL on Party...
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Old 05-26-2005, 02:39 AM
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Default Which stats do you use?

Which stats do you use?

If you can, list in order of how helpful they are.
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Old 05-26-2005, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: Which stats do you use?

VPIP and PFR are the two huge ones. Less important, but still nice to know, are aggression factor (without preflop), WSD, W$SD, and total hands. I could probably do fine with just VPIP, PFR, aggression factor, and total hands.
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Old 05-26-2005, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: Which stats do you use?

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Which stats do you use?

If you can, list in order of how helpful they are.

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I use the stats that tell me how much and in what position/situations and with what cards a player raises with preflop, how they play various made and drawing hands, what they checkraise with, and to what degree they are a calling station. These stats are called GOOD NOTES. Using PT or other stats for big bet games is for newbies and donkeys. And if your response is going to be you can't take good notes and 4-table then only play 3 like I do.
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Old 05-26-2005, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: Which stats do you use?

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Using PT or other stats for big bet games is for newbies and donkeys.

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I guess I'm a newbie and/or a donkey then.
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Old 05-26-2005, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: Which stats do you use?

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Using PT or other stats for big bet games is for newbies and donkeys.

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I guess I'm a newbie and/or a donkey then.

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You are obviously not a newbie so that narrows it down.
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Old 05-26-2005, 02:56 AM
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Using PT or other stats for big bet games is for newbies and donkeys.

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I guess I'm a newbie and/or a donkey then.

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You are obviously not a newbie so that narrows it down.

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HEE-HAW
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