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Old 05-23-2005, 02:27 AM
jon462 jon462 is offline
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Default Did I make it too obvious?

30+3 SNG on Empire. near the end of 100/200 blinds, I have about 3800 chips, sb (directly to my left) has about 250, other 2 players have about 2k a piece. I have been able top get myself in this situation less and less lately, but this is easy so I take advantage of it. Im pushing any 2 cards from button and cutoff, folding from sb to keep the BB alive. Even when the blinds rose to 300, the shorty had about 180 chips or so, so i wasnt forced to automatically call. Anyway, I think the shortie figured it out - he folded everything and let me protect him. The medium stack figured it out after a couple of rounds, and was pushing once per round (when i was button, he pushed into the other medium stack). I didnt like it, but he folded when i was BB, and folded when shortie was in bb, so i had to let him get away with 1 blind steal a round (I got 2 - my own and his. he got other medium stack's - and shortie got to stay alive during his BB). The other medium stack was clueless and kept folding 'till he was blinded away when i had about 6k outta 8k chips- and went out 4th. Ironically, the shortstack ended up finishing second (this seems to happen to me a lot when im in this situation - the shortie finishes 2nd or third.)

Here is my question. every round i had about 20 or 15 more chips to call to take out the shortie, but i folded. the idiot medium stack got frustrated once and raised 400 outta his 1k stack into shorties bb. I thought about pushing my trash - but couldnt risk he would call after putting most of his trash in - and didnt wanna triple up the shortie. lucky the shorties trash beat utg's A4. The 4th place finisher was apparently the only one at the table clueless to my strategy, and after busting out accused me and the shortie of colluding, and claimed to email Empire. Will empire have a clue about my strategy, or will they give me a warning? Im only worried about a warning because I plan on using this strategy again whenever the oppurtunity arises, and what if someone else emails empire too?

How should I react in the future if someone accuses me of colluding? Just ignore him? I basically if I took out the shortie he wouldnt fold anymore, but I regretted tipping my hand - even tho i had it wrapped up by then, I dont like educating the fish too much.

Btw, I want to thank 2+2 and Daliman especially to hipping me to this strategy. I think his hand histories on http://teamfu.freeshell.org/replayer.html# were almost solely responsible from turning me from a break even single table sng'er to a profitable multi-tabling sng'er (well, along with tightening up significantly first 3-5 rounds). Also, the question arose in a thread discussing this awhile back how to combat this strategy. The answer became obvious to me from this game. If you are the shortie - you keep folding and let the largestack protect you - you will make it into the money half the time anyway as one of the medium stack eventually gets fed up and calls. If you are one of the medium stacks - even tho you cant really call, you can push before he has entered the pot. I push any 2, but if someone has pushed before me im not calling, it defeats the purpose, (if I win i lose my FE, if i lose I double him up). There should be at least one hand a round you can push without stepping on his toes too much.
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