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05-21-2005, 07:27 PM
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do you call with a gutshot here?
10-20 NL.
You limp with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button. There are 5 players, pot is $100. Board:T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] One player with $900 behind bets $100. Another, with $3500 calls. You have them both covered. Action is on you, you close the betting. Pot is $300, you need to call $100. 
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05-21-2005, 07:34 PM
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Re: do you call with a gutshot here?
I think this is a fold as the lead better doesn't have the money you need to make, and if one of them has a draw (likely), you only have 3 outs. Not only that, but a lot of people don't understand that you need better than 10.5 : 1 for a 4 outer, becuase you have to account for the fact that you may hit and still lose to a flush or full house by the river. I'd want st least 15:1 implied odds here, and I'd want to have some type of read on the players (if I could bluff them, if they'll pay me off, etc.)
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05-21-2005, 09:02 PM
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Re: do you call with a gutshot here?
I think it's marginal, depends really on the players and how I'm playing. I like to be a lot deeper too than just the 900 for the bettor. Also, I'd be more inclined to call a gutshot with 1 over, or 2 overs, or a rainbow board, or something really hard to see, than something like this.
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05-21-2005, 09:03 PM
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Re: do you call with a gutshot here?
Side note: If you hit, who's paying you? A5? Highly unlikely, unless he was betting with A5d. The best is hitting gutshots which give other players 2nd best hands, this is when I am most willing to call.
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05-21-2005, 09:35 PM
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Re: do you call with a gutshot here?
i'm guessing you folded, and a 3 hit on the turn, and you said "s.o.b i shoulda called"
This is a fold for long term play, if you chase gutshots, you WILL lose money. Just because you would have hit that one time, does not make it a correct call tom
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05-21-2005, 09:38 PM
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Re: do you call with a gutshot here?
If the guy with 3500 was the one who did the betting I might call. I think in this spot though a fold is correct.
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05-21-2005, 10:56 PM
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Re: do you call with a gutshot here?
I'm really only interested in the "would you draw to the gutshot?" question.
The poll is getting some interesting results.
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05-21-2005, 11:12 PM
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Re: do you call with a gutshot here?
Not to hijack the thread but this is like the millionth time I'm seeing this and it's getting tiresome.
[ QUOTE ] Why are you making me limp with 65o on the button? Can I go back in time and fold preflop? [/ QUOTE ] It sounds like he has over 4k, which would be about 200xBB this limp would be .5 percent of his stack. It is a fine limp. This forum needs to stop playing so damn tight. Besides, if you play so tight, you never get into tough post-flop situations like this one, right? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] I'm only slightly kidding here, there is some logic to playing hands like this and situations like these forcing you to grow and play better and become a bettor player.
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