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Old 05-16-2005, 09:22 PM
ZebraAss ZebraAss is offline
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Default How bad is this play?

100/200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) - Table Table 11840 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: ozzysabth (3065)
Seat 4: MUKNFLOPSKR (1210)
Seat 5: cdoreo (1370)
Seat 6: Texas_Tiger (515)
Seat 8: Mercedes82 (1240)
Seat 10: ZebraAss (2600)
ZebraAss posts small blind (50)
ozzysabth posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ZebraAss [ 8s, Td ]
MUKNFLOPSKR folds.
cdoreo folds.
Texas_Tiger folds.
Mercedes82 folds.
ZebraAss calls (50)
ozzysabth checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5c, 4c, 8h ]
ZebraAss bets (200)
ozzysabth calls (200)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Th ]
ZebraAss bets (300)
ozzysabth raises (600) to 600
ZebraAss calls (300)
** Dealing River ** : [ Tc ]
ZebraAss bets (1700)
ZebraAss is all-In.
ozzysabth folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3500 with ZebraAss
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3500
Board: [ 5c 4c 8h Th Tc ]
ozzysabth balance 2165, lost 900 (folded)
MUKNFLOPSKR balance 1210, didn't bet (folded)
cdoreo balance 1370, didn't bet (folded)
Texas_Tiger balance 515, didn't bet (folded)
Mercedes82 balance 1240, didn't bet (folded)
ZebraAss balance 3500, bet 2600, collected 3500, net +900 [ 8s Td ] [ a full house, Tens full of eights -- Td,Th,Tc,8s,8h ]

ozzy is simply an average LAG.
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Old 05-16-2005, 09:26 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this play?

If the last card was the Ts, against a LAG I would like it a lot. As it's the Tc, I'm either gonna check or make a value bet.
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Old 05-16-2005, 09:26 PM
lorinda lorinda is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this play?

I don't think there's anything wrong with doing this from time to time.

You could probably "always" extract another 300 or so, but that won't make much difference to how the tourney turns out, so taking a shot at making a difference doesn't seem at all silly.

Lori
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Old 05-16-2005, 09:30 PM
Meatmaw Meatmaw is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this play?

If he's an average lag, why push all in on the river? Isn't that the move most likely to get the least chips from him? I would be tempted to check to represent weakness or bet a moderate amount, expecting to win of course. Is that bad?
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Old 05-16-2005, 09:41 PM
Nick M Nick M is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this play?

All the money goes in on the turn when he raises you. This is how I would play it.
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Old 05-16-2005, 09:43 PM
lorinda lorinda is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this play?

Is that bad?

I don't think anything is bad here, although if you bet small you have to bet small enough that he might think he can move you off with a raise.

Lori
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Old 05-16-2005, 09:47 PM
jgunnip jgunnip is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this play?

I'm not sure about the turn bet/call but on the river I'm betting 400 in hopes that he has a high flush and comes over the top of me.
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Old 05-16-2005, 10:14 PM
wuwei wuwei is offline
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Default Re: How bad is this play?

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All the money goes in on the turn when he raises you. This is how I would play it.

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I would have pushed on the turn as well.

I'm pretty confident we have the best hand. There's 1400 in the pot, I'm happy to take it down here. There's multiple draws out there - if he wants to draw, he can pay out the ass for it.
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