Rock and donk

gh9801 · #1 09-13-2005, 10:36 PM

Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 folds, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO calls.

River: (7.70 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets...

Final Pot: 9.70 BB.

MP2 78/5/0.5 over 20 hands
CO 9/5/2 over 100 hands

Comments on all streets welcome

#2 09-13-2005, 10:39 PM

Checkraise the flop. Force MP2 to call 2 cold and put some pressure on CO. The hand will play out differently. You're in a great position to checkraise the preflop raiser here. If the checkraise is only called by either/both players, lead the turn.

Lozing

gh9801 · #3 09-13-2005, 10:45 PM

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Checkraise the flop. Force MP2 to call 2 cold and put some pressure on CO. The hand will play out differently. You're in a great position to checkraise the preflop raiser here. If the checkraise is only called by either/both players, lead the turn.

Lozing

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If rock has an overpair, often times he may just call a c/r on the flop and pop the turn after I lead, trapping both me and donk. On the turn I'm bet/folding. I think I'm saving 0.5BB if I just call flop

ncboiler · #4 09-13-2005, 10:46 PM

Why did you just call the flop if you were going to lead out the turn when the J hit? Not that you knew the J was coming but you know what I mean I think. Bet or check raise.

newhizzle · #5 09-13-2005, 10:47 PM

i check-raise the flop, and check/call the river

gh9801 · #6 09-13-2005, 10:52 PM

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i check-raise the flop, and check/call the river

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I think I'm losing some value if I don't bet this river, there is a good chance my hand is good and I think if I don't bet the river will get checked through

newhizzle · #7 09-13-2005, 10:54 PM

with donk in there this is probly true, i dont think rock is calling with anything you can beat

gh9801 · #8 09-13-2005, 11:07 PM

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with donk in there this is probly true, i dont think rock is calling with anything you can beat

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right, that is why I want to bet, to get value out of the donk, now is tihs a right idea or not that is the question.

Bodhi · #9 09-14-2005, 12:47 AM

Isn't a flop check-raise standard here? (and isn't it more effective?)

#10 09-14-2005, 12:58 AM

I could see the logic if you are trying to bet the river to get a coldcall from the donk, thus making the rock fold the better hand. Otherwise, I can't see the rock calling down with a hand you beat right now.