weak 30/60 hand - AKs

MaxPower · #1 05-13-2005, 03:02 PM

So I'm taking a shot at this game with a small piece of my bankroll. I have about 400 hands so far and I'm down a couple hundred. I'm am playing well and just as aggressively for the most part.

In this hand I was middle position with green AKs. A player who was playing about 50% of his hands and was very aggressive, raised from early the position. The player to my right, who is a very respected 2+2er, re-raises. I have to assume that the 2+2er knows that both that I am a tight player and that the other player is a loose raiser. I assume he could be 3-betting lighter than normal.

I cold-called 3 bets. Normally I would cap, but I thought the cold-call might be just as effective in this case (dumb?)

The flop was 9 6 4 - two reds and a blue.

The EP player bet, the 2+2er raised...

What should I do? Did I mess this up badly so far?

Paluka · #2 05-13-2005, 03:11 PM

I'd still cap preflop, but you have to fold the flop now that you didn't.

stoxtrader · #3 05-13-2005, 03:17 PM

green AK? I love it.

HU vs the twoer i think is a better arguement for colcalling, with the bad player in you miss to much value by not capping AND deception is worth much less post-flop 3 handed with a bad player.

sfer · #4 05-13-2005, 03:19 PM

I'd cap preflop exactly to avoid decisions like this. 2+2er could easily be raising with a worse ace and I want to see at least the turn cheaply. But now I think you have to muck.

MaxPower · #5 05-13-2005, 03:32 PM

Thanks guys.

Another benefit of capping is that the EP player will probably bet the flop which puts our 2+2 friend in a really uncomfortable position.

The way the rest of the hand played out confused me.

The turn was a blue 5 making the board red 9, red 4, blue 6, blue 5. The EP bet and the 2+2er folded.

This confused me. I would have expected him to call down with as little as ace high against this player.

ike · #6 05-13-2005, 03:38 PM

Looks vaguely collusive. Probably not though. Damn cheating thread has me seeing ghosts.

stoxtrader · #7 05-13-2005, 03:42 PM

he could have been 3 betting extremely light.

MaxPower · #8 05-13-2005, 03:43 PM

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Looks vaguely collusive. Probably not though. Damn cheating thread has me seeing ghosts.

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Definitely not. This guys is one of the better players nd I highly doubt he would collude. He will probably see this because he frequents this forum.

pfkaok · #9 05-13-2005, 04:03 PM

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I would have expected him to call down with as little as ace high against this player.

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KQs perhaps, trying to push you off of AK or AQ by raising flop and get HU with donk??

or, if he's a multitabler, possibly just a misclick?

imashyboi · #10 05-13-2005, 10:18 PM

Capping preflop is a good action since you'll probably have button anyways and it shows that you have a big hand so they won't mess with you. If you cap preflop and UTG bets out but the other player smooth calls is a raise better than a call? Would folding 2called a better play or could you still win with your AKs. I know you don't have much, just the position but raising here could throw both players off, this could be those situations where mixing your play a little could help. If you do raise on the flop with two callers your probably going to see it on the river, if an A or K comes your hand could still be good.