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Two hands for you
Comments everywhere appreciated in both hands.
#1 I had relatively no read on the BB here. I wasn't feeling good on the turn, and I think I would've dumped this HU (good? bad?). But I felt closing the action with the callers in the middle I had to see a river. Give me your thoughts. Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.5. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks. Flop: (4.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls. Turn: (4.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls. River: (8.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls. Final Pot: 12.25 BB #2 SB was very loose and a tad on the aggressive side postflop. However, I'm still unsure in general about spots like this (top pair with so-so kicker). MP2 was just a calling station. Fold here if raised on the river by eeither SB or MP2? Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: (5 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls. Turn: (5.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls. River: (8.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, SB folds. Final Pot: 10.50 BB |
#2
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Re: Two hands for you
Hand 1: I don't think I would bet the river here
Hand 2: PF is a bit liberal (but not bad). Nice play postflop |
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Re: Two hands for you
Hand #1:
I'd fold the turn. With no reads, you really can't have a clue what he'd check/call, lead with. My guess is you're up against A6 or A7 and he figured you took a stab at the pot on the flop. Hand #2: fold preflop. If you don't, when he plays with you on that flop you can't like it. You're either looking at another jack, where your WA/WB, or a 3, to which you are WB. Given the action, I don't think you're up against a pp like 88, but its possible. Given you're line, your river bet is good |
#4
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Re: Two hands for you
Hand 1: I'd be more likely to call down HU, not less. I think I play it the same. I don't really like folding the turn, but maybe that's better.
Hand 2: Any read on his aggression preflop? I raise that flop every time. At the turn, you're only losing to KJ and AJ and chopping with all the others. However, with MP2 donking along, I think you are best to keep betting, even if you only end up getting half of what he puts in. No one has told you they have a three, and no one has said they have a flush. When SB folds, I bet he had something like 22-88, maybe 99-TT. Edit: The river bet is questionable in hand 1 as well. With all these people calling along with no signs of folding, you're getting a pretty decent overlay, so you don't have to win all that much for a bet to be +EV. You can pretty easily fold to a check/raise. |
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Re: Two hands for you
Yes, looking at it now, the river bet in #1 is not so good. Maybe I thought I had AK in the heat of it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: Two hands for you
Hand 1:
I'll play it the same, and don't fold it HU. Hand 2: I play it the same, and yes I fold to a c/r. |
#7
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Re: Two hands for you
Hand1-River bet..meh. I'd be pretty happy to just see a showdown here.
Hand2-pf is a tad loose..but not awful by any means. I like every stree past preflop though. That 9 put you ahead of alot of Jx holdings and even AJ which are likely holdings for your opponents. |
#8
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Re: Two hands for you
I like hand 1 a lot. I see all sorts of "clever" play @ .5/1 where people stop n' go with nothing. I like the call on the turn and love the river bet.
Hand 2, this is one of those hands you just kind of have to go with, I like the flop play. I have no idea where MP2 is in this hand but I see people play pocket pairs this way a lot (although rarely against a flop raise). He have QT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or something like that? |
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Re: Two hands for you
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I'd be more likely to call down HU [/ QUOTE ] Agree. |
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Re: Two hands for you
Hand 2.
I agree with the others, I would fold this preflop. Not because J9s is a terrible terrible hand but mostly due to your position. You're up front in middle position and if you get raised you're playing a very low % for 2 small bets vs. 1. I'd call on the button and maybe in the cutoff, otherwise fold. JTs you could better argue for a call in MP1. |
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