QQ in position with tough decision

[DoomSlice]

Both Villains in this hand are pretty loose, but not TOO aggressive.

PP NL 25 6-max

Villain1 is UTG ($40)
Hero is CO with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($85)
Villain2 is BB ($9.25)

Villain1 calls .25
..folds
Hero raises to $1.25
CO folds
Villain2 calls $1
Villain1 calls $1

Flop: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain2 checks
Villain1 checks
Hero bets $2
Villain2 raises all in to $8
Villain1 calls $8
Hero?

[Ghazban]

Besides being loose, are they terrible players? Flat calling a bet/checkraise is almost always a set or better unless the player doing it is a total donk. Against a reasonable Villain1, I think you have to fold. Against a moron who will do this with KTo or a naked flush draw, you should push (yes, its an overbet, but any substantial bet pot-commits you anyway).

[DoomSlice]

Short stack is pretty bad, the guy with $40 in his stack is decent.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Why bet half pot with a straight and flush draw on the board? Anyways, these guys don't raise worse than one pair. Fold.

[DoomSlice]

Because I'm against a short stack who's not going to hurt much if he hits and I'm not going to blow my stack to Villain1 if he's the one with the draw.