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Old 05-05-2005, 05:45 PM
lucas9000 lucas9000 is offline
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Default how does this look? (td 2-7)

$.50/$1 Triple Draw 2-7

A is at seat 0 with $48.65.
B is at seat 1 with $50.30.
C is at seat 2 with $50.65.
hero is at seat 3 with $23.25.
D is at seat 4 with $50.65.
The button is at seat 2.

hero posts the small blind of $.25.
D posts the big blind of $.50.

hero: 3d 9d 9h 2d 7s

First Round:

A raises to $1. B folds. C
folds. hero re-raises to $1.50. D
folds. A calls.

hero takes 2 cards. A takes 2 cards.

hero: 3d 2d 7s 2h Ac

Second Round:

hero checks. A bets $.50. hero calls.

hero takes 2 cards. A takes 1 card.

hero: 3d 7s 2h 9s 6c

Third Round:

hero checks. A bets $1. hero
raises to $2. A calls.

hero stands pat. A takes 1 card.

hero: 3d 7s 2h 9s 6c

Final Round:

hero checks. A checks.

i think my reraise to isolate was ok. i welcome any other views though. what about the rest of the hand?
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Old 05-05-2005, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: how does this look? (td 2-7)

The rest of the hand looks like clock work.

My normal line is to reraise to isolate with a hand like this. I'm wondering how correct that is. Against a standard loose opponent, I'm pretty comfortable raising. If it's a decent player, does anyone just cold call? 237 is a favorite or tiny, tiny dog to any other two card draw and you lose some value since you're out of position. On the other hand, you can't really be that far ahead of the raiser and if they have a one card draw or are pat, you're pretty far behind. Does the benefit of getting the hand heads up compensate enough for the times you're way behind? I'm starting to think this is a big leak in my game. You're building a big pot when you're out of position.
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Old 05-05-2005, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: how does this look? (td 2-7)

I had to think about the pf raise a lot, but I think that is right.

The turn is something I have been thinking about lately. I am not sure c/ring there is any better than betting out or check calling and standing pat. I know I tend to c/r there but I think that is a leak in my game. The problem I have with c/ring is that villain must be able to break a better hand that he would keep after you stand pat with any other line. I am not crazy about c/ring for information here, though I have to run some numbers on that. Maybe c/ring for value is good. I don't know, I really need to do a careful analysis of this situation. It comes up all the time, you have a smoothish 9 oop with one draw left and villain having drawn one last draw. I think that situation needs it's own thread, maybe I will get some time at work tomorrow to plug through some numbers. That looks like about a 45 minute analysis.
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Old 05-05-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: how does this look? (td 2-7)

Pre flop is interesting; I said I thought it was good, but I am wondering now.
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Old 05-05-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: how does this look? (td 2-7)

fwiw, i was checkraising for value there.
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Old 05-05-2005, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: how does this look? (td 2-7)

Bet on the end.

-DeathDonkey
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Old 05-05-2005, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: how does this look? (td 2-7)

3 bet is good. It would be different if there were coldcallers in between, but even then, its for value. 237 is too good to not get money in with.

-DeathDonkey
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Old 05-05-2005, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: how does this look? (td 2-7)

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fwiw, i was checkraising for value there.

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That makes me like it a lot more. Still thinking abot pre flop.
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Old 05-05-2005, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: how does this look? (td 2-7)

This is an auto 3bet for me preflop, I MIGHT smooth call against a known tight/correctly playing player but almost always a 3-bet against an average to below-average guy.

Check-call after first draw goot.

Yea, I think the biggest area of debate is the CR. I lead here, but I rarely checkraise in TD, maybe a hole in my game. If you lead and he raises you, do you break? What if he caps after you CR?

River I check call as played, if he bets you are probably throttled though.
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Old 05-05-2005, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: how does this look? (td 2-7)

addressing these out of order...

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What if he caps after you CR?

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i definitely break it.

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If you lead and he raises you, do you break?

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that's tough. it would totally depend on what kind of player i think he is. for the average player at this level, though, a raise there would mean he made at least an 8, imo. then i'd have to break it. if it was somebody i thought might be putting a move on me, i'd probably just call and then check-call the river. tough one though.
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