Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Tournament Poker > Multi-table Tournaments
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-05-2005, 09:46 AM
meow_meow meow_meow is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 180
Default Very early, huge draw, opponent pushes....

here is the hand, first orbit of a Party 100+9 from last night:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t975)
MP3 (t795)
CO (t975)
Button (t960)
SB (t1075)
Hero (t1000)
UTG (t950)
UTG+1 (t965)
MP1 (t2305)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Button calls t15, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t50</font>, Button calls t35, SB folds.

Flop: (t112.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, Button calls [t910] , Hero ????

I'm only getting about 1.3:1 to call. It would be nice to double up early though, and I'm a favorite against a lot of hands he might have here, and only a significant dog to a set, which seems unlikely.

What's your play?
Also, feel free to critisize my play on up to that point as well.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-05-2005, 09:52 AM
Lurshy Lurshy is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 21
Default Re: Very early, huge draw, opponent pushes....

It looks like the guy just called your bet. Was the push after the turn card? If so what was the card and your action, or did the converter mess up?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-05-2005, 09:56 AM
durron597 durron597 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 6
Default Re: Very early, huge draw, opponent pushes....

The converter appears to have screwed up.... but I'm willing to go to the felt with that hand.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-05-2005, 10:06 AM
meow_meow meow_meow is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 180
Default Re: Very early, huge draw, opponent pushes....

No, see, he I bet 100, he "calls" all-in for 810 more (910 total). I think it is the way the HH's are written.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-05-2005, 10:18 AM
fnord_too fnord_too is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Norfolk, VA
Posts: 672
Default Re: Very early, huge draw, opponent pushes....

I think that is a call. You are favored over the range of hands I put him on (any two broadway, any pair), and against top set you are only a 2:1 dog. Also, he could have a smaller draw than you. I call and take my chances. That over bet feels like a weak king, and I am happy to get my money in if that is the case.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-05-2005, 10:59 AM
JackOfSpeed JackOfSpeed is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 12
Default Re: Very early, huge draw, opponent pushes....

I call and hope I hit one of my 84 bazillion outs.




I think it's even possible that he has JQ if he's a tard.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-05-2005, 11:14 AM
A_PLUS A_PLUS is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 44
Default Re: Very early, huge draw, opponent pushes....

Even with a generous range for him (I dont see KK here at all). you are about a coin flip from here. I actually think a set is a little unlikely as well. Maybe 77, but do you think he overbets that much with a set? Maybe to throw you off, but I doubt it.

I think KT, KJ, 89h, Q9h, are your most likely hands for him. If so, you are giving up too much by folding here.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-05-2005, 11:26 AM
NLfool NLfool is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 294
Default Re: Very early, huge draw, opponent pushes....

too early unless you know him to be a donk. Gamble in the middle/late stages with this when you could win 40k or whatever large amount in chips. Don't gamble for peanuts here as it won't really have much affect on how you place 1st-3rd (minus of course getting knocked out)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-05-2005, 12:06 PM
meow_meow meow_meow is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 180
Default RESULTS

The more I think about this, the more I don't like the call. Maybe it's just my risk-averse nature, but most of the time I'm looking at a coin-flip here, and it's not a rebuy tourney...

FWIW, I call, he flips up an ugly T6s. Middle pair, no kicker, no draw....
Maybe he misread the board, and thought he had 2 pair....
No help, blah.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-05-2005, 12:24 PM
JonLines JonLines is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 104
Default Re: RESULTS

But this time you were like a what... 70-30 favourite? Im guessing here, nothing to work from. 70-30 is about as good as it gets in poker, you should be happy with your read, and count your loss as a suck out! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.