What to do on River?

[McGahee]

Just sat down, no reads. Sorry, but I just can't raise KQo PF from the blinds multi-way, I just can't. I think river play is one of the weaker spots in my game. Is this check/call, bet/fold, or bet/call?

Paradise Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (3 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9 BB

[shadow29]

Nothing wrong with not raising KQo here. I don't at a full table.

Your river fold is terrible.

At higher limits (and I guess here too) you'll see the donkeys raising the river when the board pairs precisely because of folds like yours.

You have to call his raise. I would bet $5 that you're ahead.

[kenberman]

easy call, and make him show you his 7.

[KingOtter]

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Just sat down, no reads. Sorry, but I just can't raise KQo PF from the blinds multi-way, I just can't. I think river play is one of the weaker spots in my game. Is this check/call, bet/fold, or bet/call?


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I probably would have check/called because of the flush card, with 2 people in it with me. They're calling down some kind of draw and the board has a straight and a flush on it.

KO

[Shillx]

Sorry, but I just can't raise KQo PF from the blinds multi-way, I just can't.

You should highly consider doing it.

Brad

[McGahee]

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Nothing wrong with not raising KQo here. I don't at a full table.

Your river fold is terrible.

At higher limits (and I guess here too) you'll see the donkeys raising the river when the board pairs precisely because of folds like yours.

You have to call his raise. I would bet $5 that you're ahead.

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Now that I look at it, it does look pretty bad in print. I guess it was one of those gut things where I "just knew" I was beat. Plus I've been considering the possibility that I make too many crying calls lately.
It was a combination of the 7 and the flush that scared me; but I would like to take you up on your $5 bet. Villian has been playing weak/tight since, and I know he didn't have a read on me.

[FreakDaddy]

It's a good hand to raise PF even if you're going to be OOP. All those limpers aren't playing solid hands, make them pay if you hit the flop.
River fold is fine. Considering how the hand was played (villian appears to be calling down with either 7 or a draw), AND the pot is small, I'd drop it here. If villian is sophisicated enough to raise that scare card into someone who's been leading the whole hand, shake his hand and say 'gutsy play'.

[Dave H.]

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Sorry, but I just can't raise KQo PF from the blinds multi-way, I just can't. [ QUOTE ]
You should highly consider doing it.

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SSHE doesn't agree with a raise from the BB even in a loose game with KQo.

[FreakDaddy]

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Sorry, but I just can't raise KQo PF from the blinds multi-way, I just can't. [ QUOTE ]
You should highly consider doing it.

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SSHE doesn't agree with a raise from the BB even in a loose game with KQo.

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Do you do everything by the book? This raise is positive EV with all these limpers. I hope you're only kidding.

[Buckmulligan]

I cry call.