Flop call too loose?

[J.DP]

Found this old hand in my PT database so no reads. (Great excuse)

Preflop seems standard at your average 0.5/1 table.

Is the pot big enough on the flop to justify calling two cold?

I think my 10 and 8 outs are about 4-5 outs in total, so getting 7-1 (maybe more after the other player acts) is this an ok call?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls?

All comments appreciated. [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

[gopnik]

I am folding this preflop and postflop. A lot of aggression,
you are only getting 6-1 on your call, and you probably have just a couple of clean outs.

[J.DP]

Damn you davelin!

Deleting is sneaky.

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[Zoelef]

You can call this pf if the table is consistently 5+ to the flop, but I fold this 2-cold back to me.

[tiltaholic]

i'd fold pf. but limping is ok at a loose passive table like this one (it seems)

i'd probably lead the flop and re-evaluate from there. but i'd don't know if thats over the top.
i'd fold when it's 2 cold back to me as in your case.

[KingOtter]

I'm with the fold camp. I'm thinking I might, under certain conditions, call with this hand, but with the chances of MP1 making it 3 and MP2 capping make me want to muck it.

KO

[FlopMe]

I'm folding preflop from UTG...but I play too tight.

I'm check/folding the flop. I wouldn't see the Kings as outs nor the 8c.

[davelin]

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Damn you davelin!

Deleting is sneaky.

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I misread the hand, I thought Hero flopped bottom two pair.

[J.DP]

Ok thanks for the speedy responses guys.

Looks like I really over valued my outs. Let me see if I understand why it's a fold...

MP2 could make it 3 bets cutting down my pot odds considerably, my implied odds also.

... and there are too many redraws to fight off even if I make my hand. Thus my pot equity is poorer than it looks.

The right stuff?

[FlopMe]

Yes, and you could even be drawing dead if a passive player with a 0% PFR stat limped in with AK.