QQ 1st Orbit

[JimmyJazz1]

2nd hand in my session I get dealt QQ. utg folds, I raise to $12, next person to act immediately reraises all in for $250. Easy fold?

[the alex]

Not an easy fold in a generic sense, but you lose nothing by folding QQ everytime someone raises to $12 (I'm assuming that this is 1/2) and you get re-raised all in for $250. Lay it down in a full ring cash game.

[JimmyJazz1]

sorry not to say the specifics. Its party 400nl 6max.

[Roman]

I fold this.

[JimmyJazz1]

I folded. He did not show. Is this a definite call with KK? No reads.

[krammatrix]

I could be wrong, but i would assume that an opponent who would make a move this big with KK would also be capable of making such a move with AA. I think the main decision here is deciding whether or not you think your opponent is the kind of player that would make a play like this with AK, JJ, etc. or only with KK or AA. Since you have no read, you can't assume he doesn't have a big hand, and should therefore fold. Given this, I would say that its a fold with KK as well.

[the alex]

With KK, I might re-raise all in or fold. People do this with AA, KK, and QQ, sometimes JJ. With QQ, I'm thinking I can beat 1 out of 5 possible hands here if I approach JJ with half-scrutiny. With KK, I'm thinking I can beat 3 out of 5. I'm probably calling with no reads and KK unless the table's really juicy and that's why I'm there. Then, I'm folding. I'll get money anyway. Not losing anything with a fold.

[BoxTree]

I fold QQ and KK here.

You have no information.

Would he do this with only AA?

What about KK?

How about QQ?

JJ?

72o?

Do you really want to find out?

Just give him the $12 unless you have more information.

[JimmyJazz1]

Yea, with no reads I think you're right.