3-bet this turn with my set?

Xiphoid · #1 04-02-2005, 10:02 PM

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG+2 posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero calls, UTG+2 (poster) checks, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB raises, BB calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 3-bets, MP3 calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, Hero caps, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (17.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, MP3 folds, SB calls, Hero...

KDawgCometh · #2 04-02-2005, 10:06 PM

do you think they have 96 or 109. I'm leaning to calling the raise and hope the board pairs as he has a made hand from the looks of it

PokerBob · #3 04-02-2005, 10:11 PM

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Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG+2 posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero calls, UTG+2 (poster) checks, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB raises, BB calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 3-bets, MP3 calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, Hero caps, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (17.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, MP3 folds, SB calls, Hero...

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easy 3-bet

mtdoak · #4 04-02-2005, 10:11 PM

Yup. Even if he's ahead with a straight, you've got a shite load of redraws. Now, if he has a higher set, your in it deep (which is unlikely). 3 bet, check call if capped and the river doesn't pair the board.

CallMeIshmael · #5 04-02-2005, 10:12 PM

This is a tough one...

What is your read on villian here?

Here is the situation:

If he has 9T, then 3 betting is a slight mistake (you are getting 3 way action on your 3.6-1 shot, assuming all of your boat outs are clean, and everyone comes along... these may, ironically, be contradictory statements)

If he has JJ/88 you are making a HUGE mistake by reraising

If your hand is good (he has J8 for example) you are making a HUGE mistake by not reraising

I am leaning towards calling. But an aggressive villian (who might do this with two pairs) might push my mouse to the right.

Xiphoid · #6 04-02-2005, 10:56 PM

Here's how this one turned out:

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG+2 posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero calls, UTG+2 (poster) checks, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB raises, BB calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 3-bets, MP3 calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, Hero caps, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (17.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, MP3 folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (25.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, SB folds.

Final Pot: 36.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has 7s 7h (full house, sevens full of fives).
UTG+2 has Kd Jd (two pair, jacks and fives).
MP1 has 6c Jc (flush, jack high).
Outcome: Hero wins 36.50 BB. 

In retrospect, it was easy to think 3-bet, but that should have been my line during this hand. I feared 88 or JJ at the time, but I think my opponents have other hands a majority of the time here and I'm safe to 3-bet.

As you can see, this was a real juicy table. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks for all the advice.