Button Doing Worse than Earlier Positions. Why? (Stats Incld.)

[TomBrooks]

I am doing considerably worse from the button than I am from some earlier positions and I don't know why. Can anyone glean anything from my position stats? Does anyone else have this problem?

I included two sets of stats, because my VPIP has been steadily dropping since I started in November and my postflop play has been changing gradually, and hopefully for the better. The button problem shows up over the whole time but continues in my recent play also.



Three Month Position Stats: Dec 26, 2004 to Present


One Month Position Stats: Feb 26, 2005 to Present

[btspider]

sample size. you don't seem to change your PF standards much tho. you seem too loose UTG and not aggressive enough PF in LP.

[TomBrooks]

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sample size.

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Hi Spider, I think the one month sample size (was 9.5k hands) is showing some short term varience, so maybe it's better to mainly look at the 3 month sample (33k hands) - the trend looks similar to me in both, however. And I changed the one month picture to include a few more days to get it over 10k number of hands people like to see.

[davelin]

It also looks like you cold-call a bunch.

[bottomset]

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sample size. you don't seem to change your PF standards much tho. you seem too loose UTG and not aggressive enough PF in LP.

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yeah you raise more often UTG than on the button .. thats not a good sign

coldcalling 1% is def too much

[KaiShin]

Wow, 3.39% CC from the Button? That's huge.

Your raising standards are almost identical at UTG and Button. Your PFr only drops in late-middle to late position, which is knid of the reverse that it should be. You need to raise more unraised pots when you have position.

[Aaron W.]

It looks like you're a bit too loose and you're not raising enough. You also like to coldcall too often. I suspect you've got a slow steady leak in that department and should examine it more closely. Are you limping in with speculative hands without enough players involved in the pot? Are you open-limping with hands that you want to play because you're afraid to raise T9s and A7s from that spot?

[Shillx]

You don't seem to understand the value of position. My PFR from the button back toward the blinds looks like this:

13 (button), 12.5, 11.3, 9.7, 10.5, 9.2, 7.6 (UTG or pos. 6), 7 (BB), 8.6 (SB)

My VPIP also goes from ~13% UTG to about 19% on the button. There are a lot of hands that you can get value from after lots of loose players limp in.

Brad

[No_Stake]

i have similair leak i was raising more from UTG than in LP
got over it by deciding to NOT cold call in late position i reraise or ditch plain and simple and so far over the last 5k hands im seing a vast improvent in my preflop aggression numners.
To many times i was content to cold call the maniac and try and hit a flop now i just pound right back

[bozlax]

It's been pointed out that you cold-call a lot more from the button than anywhere else. Let's compare the button to one off the button:

You cold-called 3.39% of 3,951 hands, or 134 times, with the button. You cold called 2.32% of 3,628 hands, or 84 times, one off the button. That's 50 more hands where you put in at least $1 more PF. Since you're playing .5/1 that's at least 50BB you've "lost" over 3951 hands on the button, or at least (0.01)BB/hand.

I haven't the mental agility this early in the morning (not to mention insufficient data) to do a full analysis of the stats (your VPIP is higher as is your PFR, leading me to believe you might be raising too many hands, here; your WSD is higher, but your W$SD is lower, leading me to believe you're over-playing Button hands), but the cold-call stat certainly gives you an idea where the money might be "going".