AJ from EP with KK2 flop

imported_smoove · #1 03-23-2005, 03:29 AM

Button was looking slightly loose and mildly aggressive preflop and pretty passive postflop.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls, 4 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds.

Do you like me leading out here?

Turn: (2.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Did I have the odds to call here? I figured he probably had the 2 or a smallish pocket pair. 5.75:1 with 7 outs, I think. Three aces, three jacks and the final king, right? (I just didn't buy that he had it.)

River: (6.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button folds.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Peter Harris · #2 03-23-2005, 05:04 AM

the hand didn't remove rake! After the turn call the pot should be 5.25BB as party remove $0.50.

The effect of the rake here actually makes the turn call a loser IF you think they are not betting a naked ace. you're only getting 5.25:1 for your 7 outs against a house.

Falcon900EX · #3 03-23-2005, 06:46 AM

I would raise it pre flop.
Greets

ArturiusX · #4 03-23-2005, 06:49 AM

Easy preflop raise, I might fold this flop. The pots woefully small and a semi-bluff isnt worth it.

Elbie · #5 03-23-2005, 08:22 AM

Raise preflop.

I would have folded to the turn-raise in this rather small pot. Even if doesn´t have the 4th K (obviously he didn´t) you have to spike an A or a J (or a K) on the river to beat his 2 or pocket pair.

Peter Harris · #6 03-23-2005, 10:08 AM

missed that - full props to you falcon

peace out

Buckmulligan · #7 03-23-2005, 11:28 AM

That is not a good bet on the flop unless you raise it preflop (which you should). This hand plays completely differently when you raise it preflop. I would actually venture to say that calling here is worse than folding.

imported_smoove · #8 03-23-2005, 12:11 PM

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the hand didn't remove rake! After the turn call the pot should be 5.25BB as party remove $0.50.

The effect of the rake here actually makes the turn call a loser IF you think they are not betting a naked ace. you're only getting 5.25:1 for your 7 outs against a house.

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Wow, that's a good point...I forgot all about the rake. Also, I really did want to raise this preflop, but I let the SSH tight chart training wheels dissuade me. It's pretty rare for me not to raise AJ preflop. I agree that would have made the hand much easier to play.