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Old 03-20-2005, 03:57 AM
wrto4556 wrto4556 is offline
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Default I hate these-Stop N Go

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls.

Looks like he's on a draw.

Turn: (7.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Ugh. I hate it when people do this. Can I fold? What about if the pot was smaller/larger?

River: (9.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.12 BB
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Old 03-20-2005, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: I hate these-Stop N Go

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Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls.

Looks like he's on a draw.


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Why do you say that? IF I'm on a diamond draw here, I'm check-raising this flop.

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Turn: (7.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Ugh. I hate it when people do this. Can I fold? What about if the pot was smaller/larger?

River: (9.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.12 BB

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IMO the stop-n-go means 1 of 2 things: (1) he's got you beat, (2) he's retarded. Did the jack really help him? How could it, unless he had Jx for 2 pair?

He could have A7 and have you on a diamond draw. You are getting 5:1 on your money if you call down. That said, I have no idea what the right move is. I think I'd call him down though.
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Old 03-20-2005, 04:17 AM
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Why do you say that? IF I'm on a diamond draw here, I'm check-raising this flop.

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I ment to edit that out...looks like i'm ahead.

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IMO the stop-n-go means 1 of 2 things: (1) he's got you beat, (2) he's retarded. Did the jack really help him? How could it, unless he had Jx for 2 pair?

He could have A7 and have you on a diamond draw. You are getting 5:1 on your money if you call down. That said, I have no idea what the right move is. I think I'd call him down though.

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What if the pot were smaller?
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Old 03-20-2005, 04:19 AM
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Why do you say that? IF I'm on a diamond draw here, I'm check-raising this flop.

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I ment to edit that out...looks like i'm ahead.

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IMO the stop-n-go means 1 of 2 things: (1) he's got you beat, (2) he's retarded. Did the jack really help him? How could it, unless he had Jx for 2 pair?

He could have A7 and have you on a diamond draw. You are getting 5:1 on your money if you call down. That said, I have no idea what the right move is. I think I'd call him down though.

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What if the pot were smaller?

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I think it would be easier to let go. But where the cut-off is, I have no idea.
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Old 03-20-2005, 04:29 AM
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Alright he either has a draw or a good hand so how about raising the turn,fold to 3bet, and then taking a free showdown.
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Old 03-20-2005, 04:57 AM
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Alright he either has a draw or a good hand so how about raising the turn,fold to 3bet, and then taking a free showdown.

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I don't think you can count on a free showdown against this opponent. Do you call the river with that line?
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Old 03-20-2005, 05:03 AM
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Alright he either has a draw or a good hand so how about raising the turn,fold to 3bet, and then taking a free showdown.

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Folding to a 3-bet would be bad. I can pay the same and see what he has by just calling. If he 3-bets me because he's feeling frisky with a little pocket pair and gets me to fold I lose the whole pot.
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