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A very non weak 65s hand
10/25
I have a pretty quiet image, haven't gotten out of line yet, this is in the beginning of the night, I have 3k. I pick up 65s on the button and make a raise to 100 trying to build a pot after several limpers. Short stack on super tilt after losing an enormous pot reraises all in to 200. 3 other people call, and I think that I want to reraise to get almost 5:1 on my money on probably a 60/40 shot against a short stack...does this make logical sense? Would anyone not do this? I reraise to 600 fully expecting the other two players to drop out. They both have about 1000 and don't. Flop comes A49 2 of my suit. I move in, which I think is pretty clear even on a 6 high flush draw being that there is a ton of money already in the pot. Does this play still make sense if I know I have zero folding equity since they will only be risking 400 to win several thousand? This is a no brainer, correct? Seemed like it at the time...I nearly got lynched at the table after this hand. |
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Re: A very non weak 65s hand
In my opinion, the 56s is a great play IF you are certain no whackjobs would slow play a big pair or call all in w/ a mid pair. More than a few times I have seen someone limp, then call a small stacks all in, then call my all in and show KK OR stick around way too long with 88. It doesn't make any sense at all but it does happen.
If everyone involved in the hand had <1,000 and I was sure there were no big pairs out (or horrible callers) then I would just push. I think this play should usually be reserved more for tournaments but in the occasional cash game situation it is ok. The flop push is a no brainer. Also, I have been to Greektown once. I played in a biggish NL game with i think 2-5-5 blinds? I may not be right. Anyway a bunch of people had 3k+ and were horrible. THe first hand I played I had JJ, made a smallish raise and got two callers. FLop was 378. SB checked, and UTG bet, i raised pretty big (forgive me details are foggy). THe SB then calls and then UTG reraises. I fold. THe SB then calls with 99 and gets destroted by a set. I couldn't believe it. Given that memory, I wouldn't try this play at Greektown, but I've only played there once, and it wasn't at those bigger stakes. |
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Re: A very non weak 65s hand
What a wonderful image to play off of win or lose.
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Re: A very non weak 65s hand
I hate the initial pre-flop raise...Why are you trying to build a pot? If you flop a draw, you may face a very large bet, and stack sizes don't seem deep enough to justify playing a draw....If you want to raise from the button, raise enough so that you have a chance at stealing the pot preflop....Or better yet, just limp on in!
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Re: A very non weak 65s hand
i might not
play it that way but if i did i would push 1000 not 600 |
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Re: A very non weak 65s hand
i thought the poetry jam was over
this is terrific! snaps |
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Re: A very non weak 65s hand
[ QUOTE ]
i might not play it that way but if i did i would push 1000 not 600 [/ QUOTE ] If you are trying to isolate why not just push all in? |
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Re: A very non weak 65s hand
Woops ... ansewered my own question. I am slightly drunk rite now so I'm not responsible for anything I say or do [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: A very non weak 65s hand
Yeah, in hindsight, 1000 would have been better. As for not playing it that way...you wouldn't raise in the first place, or you wouldn't reraise?
A few people have mentioned not liking the preflop raise. Um, stacks are pretty deep, I have position, I have a great hand, and I want to play a big pot. What hands are you raising from this position? You can't only raise AA - QQ, AKs in this game, you will get zero action.... |
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Re: A very non weak 65s hand
the first pf raise is fine.
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