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#1
03-19-2005, 01:06 AM
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15 outs on the Flop
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) converter
300 of 800 left, I am a little over 2X the avg. BB (t3640) Hero (t7155) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls t250. Flop: (t875) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t350</font>, BB raises all-in t3240, Hero calls t2890. My read was instantaneos (PP, probably 77-99), as was my action. This is an auto-call, is it not? CSC 
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#2
03-19-2005, 01:10 AM
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Re: 15 outs on the Flop
you need to be careful about putting opponents precisely on the range of hands that you beat. I think you have a tendency to do that. In this spot though, yes I think its a pretty easy call.
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#3
03-19-2005, 01:20 AM
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Re: 15 outs on the Flop
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you need to be careful about putting opponents precisely on the range of hands that you beat. I think you have a tendency to do that. In this spot though, yes I think its a pretty easy call. [/ QUOTE ] Fair criticism. thx. CSC
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#4
03-19-2005, 01:23 AM
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Re: 15 outs on the Flop
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[ QUOTE ] you need to be careful about putting opponents precisely on the range of hands that you beat. I think you have a tendency to do that. In this spot though, yes I think its a pretty easy call. [/ QUOTE ] Fair criticism. thx. CSC [/ QUOTE ] I think there's a fair chance of a second flush draw too, btw. Not that I fold this
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#5
03-19-2005, 01:30 AM
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Re: 15 outs on the Flop
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] you need to be careful about putting opponents precisely on the range of hands that you beat. I think you have a tendency to do that. In this spot though, yes I think its a pretty easy call. [/ QUOTE ] Fair criticism. thx. CSC [/ QUOTE ] I think there's a fair chance of a second flush draw too, btw. Not that I fold this [/ QUOTE ] My reasoning for the mid PP read (though remember, this is instantaneous, not thought out) is that this player tends to be agro PF - a very solid player. This knowledge coupled with the call PF from the BB (out of character) and joined with the not threatening board made this look like a "take it down while it is still good" move. I did not believe this was a pure bluff, and I felt that she would have played back at me PF with an ace with a kicker. I agree that another flush draw would be possible, for this solid player the flush draw would be with 78 or 9T. CSC
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#6
03-19-2005, 01:34 AM
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Re: 15 outs on the Flop
I do suppose it could have been a "play" though. Maybe she had AA and didn't want another card to give me a flush draw?
CSC
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