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Old 03-17-2005, 03:00 PM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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Default Dear Party, I\'d like to change my screen name to \"Nancy\"

BB in this hand is uber loose, and very passive (60/4/.6) UTG is an unkown

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.70 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 6.70 BB


Obviously the turn here is the question. Bet and fold the river unimproved if raised?
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Old 03-17-2005, 03:05 PM
djoyce003 djoyce003 is offline
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Default Re: Dear Party, I\'d like to change my screen name to \"Nancy\"

bet the turn, fold unimproved if raised.
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Old 03-17-2005, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Dear Party, I\'d like to change my screen name to \"Nancy\"

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Bet and fold the river unimproved if raised?

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only if BB check-raises, I pay off unkowns.

IMO you equity is too great to apply the check with outs, cause you have the overpair &amp; straight + flush draws, so you don't mind a check-raise and may not always be beat if utg check-raises
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Old 03-17-2005, 04:05 PM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default Re: Dear Party, I\'d like to change my screen name to \"Nancy\"

Definitely bet the turn. I call a river bet vs. 1 player last to act if I don't improve, but I would not overcall.
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Old 03-17-2005, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Dear Party, I\'d like to change my screen name to \"Nancy\"

nancy.
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:07 PM
captZEEbo1 captZEEbo1 is offline
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Default Re: Dear Party, I\'d like to change my screen name to \"Nancy\"

overpair + gutshot + 2nd nut flush draw, not betting is a sin, or at least an egregious error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111 11!!!!1
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Old 03-17-2005, 08:21 PM
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overpair + gutshot + 2nd nut flush draw, not betting is a sin, or at least an egregious error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111 11!!!!1

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I think not betting here might qualify as crime against humanity.
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Dear Party, I\'d like to change my screen name to \"Nancy\"

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IMO you equity is too great to apply the check with outs

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right. check with outs is to applied when most likely behind in a hand, there is no reason to immediately assume you are behind here.

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