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Old 03-17-2005, 08:44 AM
OrangeHeat OrangeHeat is offline
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Default Hand against another 2+2\'er..River Play

A little background - Button is well known 2+2 solid thinking player. UTG+1 is certifiable loon with VPIP of >70% for the 50 or so hands I have on him. BB is little loose but not tricky.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP3 folds, Button calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls. - Standard play here.

Flop: (18.66 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Also played it itself. 2+2'er calling bothers me a bit as it seems he wants to keep the customers in between. His holdings after the preflop 3 bet and this flop action are pretty much KK, AA, or the other QQ. I put almost zero chance on AK, AQ, AJ as he would want to get the play heads-up after the flop. JJ also would not want any cheap cards for me to connect if I held AK, or AQ.

Turn: (11.33 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

This pretty much narrowed his holding down to AA or KK.

River: (17.33 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">

I bet knowing I have at best the second best hand.

Thoughts later.

Orange
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Old 03-17-2005, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Hand against another 2+2\'er..River Play

nice fold with KK.
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Old 03-17-2005, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: Hand against another 2+2\'er..River Play

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nice fold with KK.

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I was hoping the 2+2'er had KK and put a small percentage on the chance that he would fold it. With the pot size even a small chance makes this worth it I think.

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Old 03-17-2005, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: Hand against another 2+2\'er..River Play

I have no problem with your line at all. And it was a goof fold on the river.
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Old 03-17-2005, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: Hand against another 2+2\'er..River Play

I like it. river bet will possibly get KK to fold. you can safely fold to a raise.
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Old 03-17-2005, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: Hand against another 2+2\'er..River Play

i really like how you were able to narrow down his holdings as much as you did by the flop. but a little confused on how you were so sure he didn't have AK.

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Old 03-17-2005, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: Hand against another 2+2\'er..River Play

another good reason to not disclose your name on party
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Old 03-17-2005, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Hand against another 2+2\'er..River Play

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another good reason to not disclose your name on party

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I don't see the one you are referring to her, nor do I konw of the others you speak of. Care to elaborate?
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