Isolation attempt gone sour in a monster pot

QTip · #1 03-15-2005, 11:49 AM

MP2 has been raising with a very wide range of hands. If I had to place a PFR% on him, I'd say about 15% and his postflop skills are poor. I don't isolate much, but I'm trying to get better at it. This was an attempt.

sb is very solid and when he caps knowing he'll be OOP for the rest of the hand, I'm concerned.

I caught a piece of this flop in a huge pot...is this laydown solid?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, SB caps, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 raises, Hero folds

Harv72b · #2 03-15-2005, 11:58 AM

You're getting 10.5:1 immediate on the flop, and based on your read, the flop raiser could have anything at this point. I'd 3-bet before I folded...see if SB still likes his hand after the K & Q show on the flop. If SB caps and leads the turn, that's the time to fold UI.

PokerBob · #3 03-15-2005, 12:07 PM

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MP2 has been raising with a very wide range of hands. If I had to place a PFR% on him, I'd say about 15% and his postflop skills are poor. I don't isolate much, but I'm trying to get better at it. This was an attempt.

sb is very solid and when he caps knowing he'll be OOP for the rest of the hand, I'm concerned.

I caught a piece of this flop in a huge pot...is this laydown solid?

Ultimate Bet 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, SB caps, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 raises, Hero folds

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You are done. Easy fold. Nice move pf.

Entity · #4 03-15-2005, 12:08 PM

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You're getting 10.5:1 immediate on the flop, and based on your read, the flop raiser could have anything at this point. I'd 3-bet before I folded...see if SB still likes his hand after the K & Q show on the flop. If SB caps and leads the turn, that's the time to fold UI.

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I dunno. If SB is solid, is he really leading this flop into a PF raiser and 3-bettor with JJ? I think folding here is ok.

Rob

QTip · #5 03-15-2005, 12:09 PM

sb is very aggressive and I was quite certain I was going to be paying 2 BB before I got to the turn...I wasn't even seeing an Ace as a clean out.

Fat Nicky · #6 03-15-2005, 12:09 PM

I think you're probably drawing to 2 outs at most, easy fold...

PokerBob · #7 03-15-2005, 12:10 PM

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You're getting 10.5:1 immediate on the flop, and based on your read, the flop raiser could have anything at this point. I'd 3-bet before I folded...see if SB still likes his hand after the K & Q show on the flop. If SB caps and leads the turn, that's the time to fold UI.

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What does SB have that he would cap with PF that you are ahead of? JJ? I think this is an easy fold.

afk · #8 03-15-2005, 12:12 PM

I don't mind folding here either. I'd expect to see SB three-bet the flop as well.

chief444 · #9 03-15-2005, 12:28 PM

Nice hand. Looks like an easy fold.

The preflop 3-bet is very standard.

QTip · #10 03-15-2005, 12:31 PM

Thanks for the comments...

sb did 3 bet and UTG+1 folded and UTG+2 capped.

Turn blank.

sb bet, UTG+2 raised, sb called

River blank

sb checks/calls

sb had A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG+2 had KQo