Backing myself into a corner, villain gives me options...

[onehandfold]

Any other suggestions on this play?


1/2 NL 100 Max buy.
Hero has ~220
Villain has ~180

Read on villain?
Seems commited preflop when calling a reraise after limping. Passive post flop.

Hero is UTG with AcKc.
Hero bets 10.
Villain is MP1 and calls.
3 Additional Callers.

Pot: 53
Flop: 5c 3h Tc

Hero bets 40.
Villain calls.

Pot: 133
Turn: (5c 3h Tc) 5d
Hero checks.
Villain bets 40.
Hero calls.

Pot: 213
River: (5c 3h Tc 5d) Jh

Hero checks
Villain checks

Results and analysis in white:
<font color="white"> Hero shows AcKc for Ace high.
Villain shows KT off for pair of tens.
Hero was expecting a free card on turn. But instead got a 4:1 offer on the draw. Hero couldnt put Villain on a hand which killed his own aspects of pushing. </font>

[fimbulwinter]

this is a great hand to checkraise all-in with.

fim

[TheWorstPlayer]

You're going to check/raise all-in on the turn when you may be drawing dead and villain will only have to call another $100 into a $210 pot? I am very interested in your rationale, because I am closer to folding than raising on the turn here.

[fimbulwinter]

the flop my friend, the flop

- the action is 5 way
- he can easily represent missed AK/AQ
- someone is very likely to bet
- he has a great hand for getting it in on the flop
- the pot size to stack ratio is good for this play on the flop
- he's got good fold equity in hi push in that he has th betting pattern to make an overpair feasible
- the pot is big enough such that someone with TP or an overpair has a good onus to win it there, a villain will likely bet if he has anything to try and take the pot then

etc.

fim

PS- i feel like you and soah are my own personal copy editors. im going to have to stop unchecking the "i want to preview my post" box.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Just confused because he bet the flop and then had an opportunity to check/raise the turn and you recommended check/raising. But yes, your clarification post sounds good. Your posts are great, so just write more. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[onehandfold]

Yeah...thought so...thanks.
I continue to suck.

[onehandfold]

Actually, I just thought more about this, and realized I wouldnt get a decent sized bet into that pot. The table was making funny little bets into these large pots...so at best, if I check the flop, I get a 10 dollar bet by the kid with the pair...and I cant check raise that all in, right?

Second question:
With the current line...
Pushing instead of checking on the turn is retarded, eh?

[TheWorstPlayer]

Actually check/raising all in even with a smallish bet on the flop is fairly natural. There isn't really a smaller bet which doesn't leave ridiculously small stacks in relation to the pot on the turn.