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Old 03-14-2005, 09:25 AM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default Need help, keep losing my entire stack

On plays like this. I guess the reraise preflop could have told me he had AA. Would you have gotten away from this hand earlier?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

SB ($33.45)
BB ($47.2)
UTG ($13.5)
Hero ($24.4)
UTG+2 ($24.25)
MP1 ($26.15)
MP2 ($27.2)
MP3 ($25)
CO ($18.85)
Button ($20.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1. MP3 posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 (poster) raises to $4.75</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $4.25.

Flop: ($10.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: ($10.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, MP3 calls $15 (All-In), Hero calls $9.40 (All-In).

River: ($50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $50
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:39 AM
greg nice greg nice is offline
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Default Re: Need help, keep losing my entire stack

well what does a reraise putting 1/5 a stack in preflop mean in that game? thats what you have to figure out. if its AK, KK or AA, you dont have odds to draw to a set. you are either a small fav or a big dog. if the reraise could mean JJ or TT, then its push or fold.
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:50 AM
meow_meow meow_meow is offline
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Default Re: Need help, keep losing my entire stack

This won't happen often enough to be significant. Can't fold pre-flop. Certainly can't fold when you set up.
Set over set happens.
Very occasionally...
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:54 AM
zaxx19 zaxx19 is offline
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Default Re: Need help, keep losing my entire stack

Havent you read Zaxx' guide to stacking low limit donkeys with a set...

You must lead weakly at this flop.

You must call his reraise.

You must lead strongly at the turn here.

You must get him pot commited by the river and push.

You still would have gotten stacker there is no way to avoid that once you flopped a set on that board...so post flop is fine. As to whether you call that reraise with QQ preflop its read dependant entirely.
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Old 03-14-2005, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Need help, keep losing my entire stack

This is often avoidable with better preflop play. You should raise preflop for more - make it 4XBB at least, I prefer 5-8. That will often get an AA/KK/AK to push rather than the raise they did make.

If he pushed preflop, and you had no evidence that he was a donkey, you would fold. If he made a big raise, and you had no evidence that he was a donkey, you would fold or push at this level and with these stacks IMO. With any shred of evidence that he is the typical crazy moron at this level it is an easy push, otherwise its a tough call and I will sometimes fold.

As it happened, you should not flat call that raise unless you feel confident he is on a weaker PP or an AX. You don't have odds to draw to a set.
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Old 03-14-2005, 12:48 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Need help, keep losing my entire stack

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Would you have gotten away from this hand earlier?


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oh yeah, i'd definitely muck middle set.

also, it's a bad plan to only play with KK/AA against a 3-bet pre-flop.
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