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Old 03-11-2005, 02:50 AM
emitch emitch is offline
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Default 4 flushed - was this pot too big to fold?

With a bet and a call, how often will they both be bluffing?
Was this a good fold?
Should I have bet the river?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero (poster) checks, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (9.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(9 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds.

River: (12.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, UTG folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 14.70 BB


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Old 03-11-2005, 02:52 AM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: 4 flushed - was this pot too big to fold?

I think you should check the flop. After betting the flop you need to check/fold the turn imo. You don't have enough hand here to be betting again into 5 others.

Brad
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:09 AM
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Default Re: 4 flushed - was this pot too big to fold?

Don't post in MP1 also
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:11 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: 4 flushed - was this pot too big to fold?

A ~15 BB pot with no raises anywhere.. nice table.

I agree with check folding the turn here. I probably bet the flop, too.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:12 AM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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Default Re: 4 flushed - was this pot too big to fold?

I would check-call the flop and check-fold the turn. Huge amount of opponents and "only" top pair no kicker in a dangerous board.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:17 AM
emitch emitch is offline
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Default Results

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero (poster) checks, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (9.40 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(9 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (7.70 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds.

River: (12.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, UTG folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 14.70 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP2 has Kh Td (one pair, tens).
CO has 7s As (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: MP2 wins 14.70 BB. </font>
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:19 AM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Default Re: Results

Don't post results so quickly, if ever. And no, the pot is not too big to fold.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:27 AM
NateDog NateDog is offline
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Default Re: 4 flushed - was this pot too big to fold?

[ QUOTE ]
I think you should check the flop. After betting the flop you need to check/fold the turn imo. You don't have enough hand here to be betting again into 5 others.

Brad

[/ QUOTE ]
If LP bets and you get folds back to you on the flop, would you C/R here to isolate? I struggle with TPNK from the blinds, and have been spewing as of late in these situations. Is it even worth trying to isolate with this many players in?
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: 4 flushed - was this pot too big to fold?

I'd bet the flop. Check/fold the turn.

Edit: the river is a clear fold.
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