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Old 02-28-2005, 06:10 PM
larrondo larrondo is offline
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Default Suzuki is one. What is the other \'sub par\' 2+2 book?

In his intro to the March magazine, Mason Mulmuth mentions that there are two books which are often criticised as below the 2+2 standards. I know Suzuki's tournament book is one, but what is the other?
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: Suzuki is one. What is the other \'sub par\' 2+2 book?

If I had to guess, I'd guess PokerFarce and PokerTruth.
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Old 03-01-2005, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Suzuki is one. What is the other \'sub par\' 2+2 book?

Psychology of Poker? Not a bad book IMO, but very thin.
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Old 03-01-2005, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: Suzuki is one. What is the other \'sub par\' 2+2 book?

That's not it. POP is well spoken of. In fact, Mason has referenced it, and I doubt he'd do that if it was one of the books he wasn't proud of. I suspect Maurile is correct.
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Suzuki is one. What is the other \'sub par\' 2+2 book?

Small Stakes Hold'em
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:45 PM
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If I had to guess, I'd guess PokerFarce and PokerTruth.

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It has to be that. But I am so tempted to say TPFAP.
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Old 03-01-2005, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: Suzuki is one. What is the other \'sub par\' 2+2 book?

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But I am so tempted to say TPFAP.

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The extremes of comments on TPFAP are puzzeling. I haven't read it yet (next in my queue). Many have held it up as one of the must-read tournament books, whereas others have disparaged it as practically worthless. Why the divergence?
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Old 03-01-2005, 05:39 PM
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The extremes of comments on TPFAP are puzzeling. I haven't read it yet (next in my queue). Many have held it up as one of the must-read tournament books, whereas others have disparaged it as practically worthless. Why the divergence?

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I have the book, and it is also on my to-do list. After a brief scan, the book looks well worth reading to me. A lot of the criticism I have seen, here and elsewhere, seems to be based on the fact that the author, old whats-his-name, is not a big-name tournament player, impling that he therefore has no business writing a book about tournaments. I don't recall anyone ever citing specific examples of strategic errors in the book.
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Old 03-01-2005, 06:45 PM
Rudbaeck Rudbaeck is offline
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The extremes of comments on TPFAP are puzzeling. I haven't read it yet (next in my queue). Many have held it up as one of the must-read tournament books, whereas others have disparaged it as practically worthless. Why the divergence?

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The value of the book is the discussion of the gap concept and how chips change value. The rest of the text is decent, but it's not 2+2 standard. Compared to many other books on tournaments it's not bad, it's just not what you expect from a 2+2 book.

Personally I think it's a wee bit too survival oriented, but it's not in the same league as Cloutier by any means.

Pretty much supplemental reading. Which basically nothing else out of 2+2 is.
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Old 03-01-2005, 07:14 PM
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If I had to guess, I'd guess PokerFarce and PokerTruth.

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It has to be that. But I am so tempted to say TPFAP.

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TPFAP rules, although on a side note i think it should cost 24.95
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