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Old 02-25-2005, 12:21 PM
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Default Handreading exercise: what do I have? From the 2+2 table.

Here's a hand from the 2+2 table last night. A little background: I think some of the players are getting out of line a bit, but for the most part, it's been a good table. I've gotten out of line once or twice, but always with position, and have shown a few bluffs and a few confusing hands (3-betting btspider with T7s once). Overall, though, I'm playing solid -- 20%VPIP, 16%PFR, 2AGG and am doing my best to work on handreading.

Current reads are that olliejen is getting out of line a bit with suited cards, but not to the point of mindless capping, just limping with stupid crap. spider seems to be playing solid.

So what do you think I have here? What do you think of my play? My hand isn't the most obvious, either.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with XX.
UTG calls, UTG+1 (olliejen) calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 (btspider) raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 (olliejen) calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, olliejen checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">btspider raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds, olliejen calls, UTG+2 folds, btspider calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">olliejen bets</font>, btspider calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (18.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">olliejen bets</font>, btspider calls, Hero folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB
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Old 02-25-2005, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: What do I have? From the 2+2 table.

9 9
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Old 02-25-2005, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: Handreading exercise: what do I have? From the 2+2 table.

T9s, but not [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]s
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Old 02-25-2005, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Handreading exercise: what do I have? From the 2+2 table.

You have the J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for the gutter-ball + over-cards + BD flush draw on the flop.
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Old 02-25-2005, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Handreading exercise: what do I have? From the 2+2 table.

JT [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] possibly?

Your hand is good enough to cold call before the flop but not good enough to 3-bet. With all the limpers, I think there's a wider range of drawing type hands you could call with here or a mid pocket pair. However, the mid pocket seems unlikely after the flop-river play.
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Old 02-25-2005, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Handreading exercise: what do I have? From the 2+2 table.

I was SB in this hand I believe, I had T9o [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

my mission of the night was to put on bad beats.

-30 BB later, I did put on a vicious beat with 72o and another one with T5o. it was SOOOOO worth it.
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Old 02-25-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Handreading exercise: what do I have? From the 2+2 table.

i'm going to go w/ the majority here and say you had 9T or JTs.

seemed like you were playing a lot of suited connectors last night...
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Old 02-25-2005, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Handreading exercise: what do I have? From the 2+2 table.

T 9 suited possibly but it is a hard one to read
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Old 02-25-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Handreading exercise: what do I have? From the 2+2 table.

[ QUOTE ]
i'm going to go w/ the majority here and say you had 9T or JTs.

seemed like you were playing a lot of suited connectors last night...

[/ QUOTE ]

Meh, not really. I stole a pot or two with some suited connectors (the 34s bluff, one "you guys are respecting my raises too much" raise with 25s, and one 89s openraise from MP), and limped in late position with a few.

I raised T9s twice, once as a straddle on my last hand, which was fun, and another as an MP openraise because you guys were folding too much.

I do have to say that last night some of the postflop play was pretty bad (lots of checkraising with underpairs against opponents who were playing solid), and not in the typical 2+2 LAGfest sort of way.

Rob
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Old 02-25-2005, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: Handreading exercise: what do I have? From the 2+2 table.

Is the 2+2 table on Party? Is it a private table?

Don't really know your playing style and the T9s seems reasonable, but you said it wasn't obvious so just to be different I'll take a stab and say A8s(diamonds or clubs).
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