bet or check? 30-60 AK

hogger · #1 02-26-2005, 01:40 AM

Have been arguing with a friend in the past about this hand .
It come up again today, Do you guys check or bet river?
30-60 stars
I open MP AdKd, Button calls(plays very good post flop a little to loose preflop), SB calls,BB calls.
Flop Ts Kh 4s
BB bets, I raise, button 3 bets, BB calls, I cap.
Turn Kc BB checks, I bet,button calls, BB folds.
River Jd .
Board TsKh4sKcJd
Whats your move?

daryn · #2 02-26-2005, 02:53 AM

bet it baby.

mmcd · #3 02-26-2005, 02:58 AM

Checkraise and fold to a 3-bet.

Paluka · #4 02-26-2005, 03:26 AM

Bet and call a raise? What else you gonna do? The guy probably has KQ.

mmcd · #5 02-26-2005, 03:28 AM

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Bet and call a raise? What else you gonna do? The guy probably has KQ.

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Checkraise and fold to a 3-bet.

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hogger · #6 02-26-2005, 05:17 AM

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Bet and call a raise? What else you gonna do? The guy probably has KQ.

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I was thinking check b/c KQ is only hand I beat and he will bet it for me. I was 90% sure he has a K - so why not let him bet it for you? Only other possible hand but doubtfull since he 3bet flop is AQ or AJ nut flushes!
Any way I checked/called and he bet his KJ!
My friend thinks I should bet this river I am not convinced!

mmcd · #7 02-26-2005, 05:36 AM

I was thinking check b/c KQ is only hand I beat and he will bet it for me. I was 90% sure he has a K - so why not let him bet it for you? Only other possible hand but doubtfull since he 3bet flop is AQ or AJ nut flushes!

You don't think KQ was his most likely holding here?

I think the checkraise/fold to a 3-bet line is best, because it extracts 2 from KQ (his most likely holding IMO)
and loses the same 2 (as betting out and calling a raise) when you are beat. I think with your hand, the ideal number of bets on the river is a lot closer to 2 than 1 and by just check-calling, you are leaving money on the table.

Paluka · #8 02-26-2005, 12:30 PM

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Checkraise and fold to a 3-bet.

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Aren't you worried about him 3 betting you with AK? Folding here when you are owed half the pot would be a one way ticket to frown town.

cnfuzzd · #9 02-26-2005, 12:43 PM

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Bet and call a raise? What else you gonna do? The guy probably has KQ.

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Matjo · #10 02-26-2005, 12:51 PM

Is QJs (with or wo flushdraw) a possible hand for him to hold since he capped on the flop and called on the turn. In that case a check call might be the best option as he might bet the river but he won't call a checkraise?