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Old 02-24-2005, 02:58 PM
vertigo vertigo is offline
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Default How to recognize when your opponent has hit a set?

I have been getting killed by sets lately and am wondering if anyone has any advice for me. The amount of times that I have gotten busted out by trip 7's 0r 8' when I am holding A's or K's is maddening. I suppose that it might just be a discipline problem of mine in that I can't release these hands. However, with no flush or straight draws showing it is hard to know what the right thing to do is. TIA
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:01 PM
MLG MLG is offline
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Default Re: How to recognize when your opponent has hit a set?

I tend to know my opponents have a set when they flip their cards over and start raking in my chips.
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:01 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: How to recognize when your opponent has hit a set?

unless you're playing in some wacky 200x stack level 1 tourney your best bet is to go to the felt with an overpair if the board is not ridiculous (789Tx, 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]'s, QQJJx, etc). sometimes you lose. more often you'll bust somebody overplaying 2nd pair.
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:38 PM
Bernas Bernas is offline
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Default Re: How to recognize when your opponent has hit a set?

A check raise will make me leary. Probably still won't lay my hand down but I will check and call it down unless I get an indication later that he was just making a play.
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:41 PM
Sam T. Sam T. is offline
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Default Re: How to recognize when your opponent has hit a set?

A min-raise on the river tells me that I've been had. But I probably can't fold an overpair at this point.
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Old 02-24-2005, 04:23 PM
Che Che is offline
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Default Re: How to recognize when your opponent has hit a set?

Most common line for a set:

1. Preflop limp then call raise.
2. Check/minraise T75-type flop.
3. Bet the turn hard if PF raiser calls.

Note: I"m not saying this is my flopped set line, just that this is what I see others use the most.

Even though I know the above, I still pay off when I have the overpair most of the time so I almost wish I didn't recognize the line. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

I always at least call the flop check-raise since three good things can happen if I do:

1. I spike a bigger set on the turn.
2. Opponent decides to slowplay (check) the turn and then bet small on the river so I don't lose much when I miss and I get 2 chances at my overset.
3. The opponent doesn't really have a set and I win unimproved.

Later,
Che
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Old 02-24-2005, 04:37 PM
willie willie is offline
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Default Re: How to recognize when your opponent has hit a set?

[ QUOTE ]
Most common line for a set:

1. Preflop limp then call raise.
2. Check/minraise T75-type flop.
3. Bet the turn hard if PF raiser calls.


Che

[/ QUOTE ]

hence the reason that my line, and most people's line when they flop a set is to come out firing. You're much likely to get more chips when you do this than when you checkraise and give an opponent to really consider the situation

it's discussed in super system and it is my line, because kk/aa is gonna come over super fast on a 9 high flop and you're sittin there waiting.

it's hard to tell when people have sets- in person it's POSSIBLE, online- it's just really really hard unless the betting pattern helps you out.
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