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Old 02-18-2005, 11:19 AM
AdamBragar AdamBragar is offline
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Default Can\'t Block Me

Well, actually you can...

1/2 NL UB (this hand is from memory)

I'm in CO with JJ and have everyone covered.

Two limpers to me, I raise to 10, SB calls(~200ish), BB folds, limpers fold.

Pot: 25

Flop 893r

Checked to me, I bet 17, he calls

Pot: 59ish

Turn: 4 (suit irrelevant)

Check, I bet 35, he calls

River: 8

He bets 30

What should I do here?

Does anyone go all in here?
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Old 02-18-2005, 11:41 AM
fuzzbox fuzzbox is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t Block Me

What can call you if you move in ?
What are you trying to achieve ?
If you think you are ahead then call. If you think you are behind, then fold. I guess he has something good, but he is pricing you in, and so you have to call here.
Raising is not a good play, because he folds all those hands that you beat, and calls with all those hands that beat you.
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Old 02-18-2005, 12:10 PM
maranello11 maranello11 is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t Block Me

I would just call the river bet. He may have something like A 9 and think you were on a draw. If you push all-in only one thing can happen, you lose all your money because he beat you. Hes letting you see his hand for $30, just call
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Old 02-18-2005, 01:05 PM
AdamBragar AdamBragar is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t Block Me

Here's my logic for pushing here...

So far this hand, the person is just check calling me, suggesting either K9, A9, a draw, an overpair or a set (I don't think 2 pair is all that likely). The 30 dollar bet on the river strongly seems like a blocking bet to me. I would think a set would look to check raise or would bet out something like 100ish.

So I put him on AA, KK, QQ, JJ, 1010, A9, or K9. K9, A9, 1010 (the hands I beat) clearly fold here. I'm not questioning that.

The question is, what else folds? JJ? QQ? KK?

I don't think AA folds to an all in.
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Old 02-18-2005, 01:22 PM
Tilt Tilt is offline
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Default Re: Can\'t Block Me

Its an interesting question, but I don't think any hand that beats you folds here to an all-in. Not one. But if this move did occasionally fold a better hand it would still be -EV from the times you crash into huge hands.

The only reason to do such a move is for metagame reasons - i.e. you don't want to show a hand and you want to project a laggy fear inducing table image. Not worth it IMO.
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