Dueling With A Passive

gaming_mouse · #1 02-17-2005, 12:48 AM

This guy was very loose (>60) but pretty passive (~1.5). Anyone think the river cap was too much?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (7 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, SB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (6 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Nick C · #2 02-17-2005, 03:13 AM

I haven't played many hands with quite this sort of stop-and-start action. I guess the turn was kind of an intermission.

Anyway, SB liked his hand enough to checkraise and then cap the flop. Then after the board paired, he decided to check the turn. Possibly his Q3 just got counterfeited, or maybe the flush or straight or even the set he just knew would come in hadn't yet. (1.5 isn't that passive, and the pot is heads-up.)

Or maybe he started liking his hand that much more and decided to go for another checkraise.

To me, the river cap does seem a bit much. But at least you didn't have to worry about a 5-bet.

I'm guessing your plan on a river blank was to call a bet, which does seem reasonable to me.

Evan · #3 02-17-2005, 03:17 AM

I wouldn't cap that river. That crazy flop action followed by a turn check should look very suspcious to you. It either means he's full/trips or he got counterfeited. IMO the first is more likely than the second.

J.R. · #4 02-17-2005, 03:19 AM

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This guy was very loose (>60) but pretty passive (~1.5).

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Michael Davis · #5 02-17-2005, 03:21 AM

I would definitely hold my breath and bet the turn.

-Michael

Shillx · #6 02-17-2005, 03:24 AM

This guy is hardly passive. I would bet the turn. Your hand isn't quite strong enough to pull this play imo.

Brad

Evan · #7 02-17-2005, 03:24 AM

I almost said that too. It looks like he's either drawing dea/really thin or we are royally fu[/i]cked. I guess its hard to tell how much of which but that turn check looks really suspicous to me though.

Michael Davis · #8 02-17-2005, 03:25 AM

Well I would be real hesitant if there weren't two spades on the flop.

-Michael

Evan · #9 02-17-2005, 03:28 AM

Yea, but that kinda action is pair+draw really often I think......and we know what just happened there. I dunno, wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of being weak tight. But don't you think if he's having that much trouble keeping it in his pants w/ a semi bluff he's going to lead the turn?

Michael Davis · #10 02-17-2005, 03:34 AM

I don't know if he'll lead the turn or not, really. But I would bet this with the intention of folding to a raise. If he's flushing it's imperative you get a bet in here, and if he's not, well, are you really folding the river? I feel real comfortable folding to a raise here so it's an easy bet.

-Michael