Second pair on paired flop (AQ) - how to play it?

Akimka · #1 02-09-2005, 03:41 PM

MP2 is tight (vpip 11) PFR 6, postflop agr 1.6

WSD 27%, W$SD 100%, 83 hands on him.

How to correct play this hand?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 raises, 2 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

adamstewart · #2 02-09-2005, 04:04 PM

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How to correct play this hand?

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Fold preflop. Seriously.

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MP2 is tight (vpip 11) PFR 6

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Cold-calling with AQo is vitually never right, let alone here, given villain's stats.

The rest of the hand is irrelevant.

Adam

chief444 · #3 02-09-2005, 04:04 PM

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I might fold preflop.

I guess the flop call is okay. And I like the turn raise. But I would check the river through against this opponent.

billyjex · #4 02-09-2005, 04:09 PM

I agree with folding PF. I don't like AQo vs. a TAG (on the lower end of AG) raise.

Maybe this is a little weak of me, but I feel like calling down from the turn on. Getting 3-bet here just sucks to see my gutshot outs, and I lose the least when behind.

Given what happened, since he just called the turn raise, I like betting the river. He's calling with ATo and JJ here. If he had a K or better he's 3-betting that turn.

adamstewart · #5 02-09-2005, 04:09 PM

BTW,

Raising the turn was HORRIBLE.

Given villain's preflop tightness, and only 6% PFR, the only possible hands you beat on a K,K,T,Q board are AT and JJ.

You lose to AA, KK, QQ, TT, AK, AJ, KQ,....yadda.

I think folding the turn is the most appropriate play.

Adam

Akimka · #6 02-09-2005, 04:11 PM

Is power of hand and poition not compensating domination issue?

adamstewart · #7 02-09-2005, 04:12 PM

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Given what happened, since he just called the turn raise, I like betting the river. He's calling with ATo and JJ here. If he had a K or better he's 3-betting that turn.

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All Hero's turn raise did was slow villain down, probably because he fears trip Kings from Hero.

Villain still calls down (or reraises even) with a lot of other hands that beat Hero.

Adam

adamstewart · #8 02-09-2005, 04:14 PM

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What hands do you think this villain would raise with here?

Think about which ones you beat, which one's you're behind, and which one's your completely dominated by.

Adam

jason_t · #9 02-09-2005, 04:15 PM

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the only possible hands you beat on a K,K,T,Q board are AT and JJ, and KJ

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flair1239 · #10 02-09-2005, 04:18 PM

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I think you might have a little more lee-way PF, because it was an open raise. And although over 83 hands it looks like his standard are pretty tight, I guess I would not take that 6%PFR as gospel.

Myself, I still would probably fold PF. But I think three-betting PF would be good too.

I don't mind the turn raise, except for I think you have to fold to a three-bet. Also I am with the other poster, that you check behind on the river.