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Old 01-27-2005, 12:17 PM
prrthd prrthd is offline
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Default Pocket kings run into two turn raisers

I really wished I had a read on these players on this hand, it would have made the play much easier. I'm pretty sure I over played it, with the turn cap. But I'm still not sure what the right play is. Calling the turn seems weak and there is no way I'm folding, is there? On the river I improved to top set so I figured I would bet out, the only thing I'm behind is a junk straight, thoughts?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (25.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 31.50 BB
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Old 01-27-2005, 12:21 PM
DeadManJay DeadManJay is offline
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Default Re: Pocket kings run into two turn raisers

You have MP3 obviously beat here IMO, MP1 is suspect but not enough for me to not cap the river. The amount of times you'll win here should far out way any thoughts that he was holding 46 or A4.
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Old 01-27-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Pocket kings run into two turn raisers

MP1 has A4 here many times, but I would play the hand the same.

As for the turn, you can expect it to be capped, but if you're not folding, you might as well be the one capping it.

Good value bet on river.
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Old 01-27-2005, 12:32 PM
LowDown22 LowDown22 is offline
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Default Re: Pocket kings run into two turn raisers

I had a hand just like this the other day and couldn't get it off my mind. I would just call the turn 3bet and then bet the river calling a raise. So same as you minus the turn cap. I put MP3 on an overpair or a possible set. MP1 could have a lower set or a straight, two pair seems unlikely with this board(although so does a straight, A4?). Either way I think you are behind on the turn.
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Old 01-27-2005, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Pocket kings run into two turn raisers

i think i'd fold the turn. MP3 looks to be busting out a slowplayed AA. I don't the typical player does this with QQ/JJ nearly as often as AA. MP1 is likely raising at least two pair. you are dead to the straight and have 2 outs to a set or AA. the pots big, giving you 19:2 immediate, but you are pretty far from showdown and can expect a cap (from yourself if you continue or MP1 if you try to sneak to the river).

with the river raise, it looks like MP1 has A4.. maybe a set though.
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Old 01-27-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Pocket kings run into two turn raisers

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i think i'd fold the turn.

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How about folding the river UI?

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can expect a cap (from yourself if you continue or MP1 if you try to sneak to the river).

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There won't always be a cap.
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:16 PM
btspider btspider is offline
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Default Re: Pocket kings run into two turn raisers

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How about folding the river UI?

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its a guessing game. river 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. you check and it comes back 2 bets. what now? was it worth the 2 or 3 extra bets on the turn just to see that they didn't slow down?

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can expect a cap (from yourself if you continue or MP1 if you try to sneak to the river).

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There won't always be a cap.

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nope. i forgot to add "some % of the time". however, check out easy's recommendation. if you continue, cap yourself. it may help you clean up some outs.
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: Pocket kings run into two turn raisers

MP3 is beat, MP1 is slightly suspect - I put him probably on Axs (hopefully not A4s or A4) bet out the river.
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Pocket kings run into two turn raisers

I dont get how A4 makes the streight?
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Pocket kings run into two turn raisers

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I dont get how A4 makes the streight?

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Flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

A,2,3,4,5 ?
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