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Old 12-30-2004, 07:29 PM
ctv1116 ctv1116 is offline
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Default Those one-card straights--played correctly?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB
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Old 12-30-2004, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Those one-card straights--played correctly?

I might 3-bet the river, it seems very odd that he would just call the turn upon completing his one-card straight and raise the river. I think you have the best hand here.
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Old 12-30-2004, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Those one-card straights--played correctly?

Am I the only one who would 3bet the river every time? I'm not particularly worried about KT or a boat, and for every time you expect to split there'll be one where you see two pair or something silly like that.
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Old 12-30-2004, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: Those one-card straights--played correctly?

I agree with you entirely, but sometimes raising/3-betting might not have all the value you think it does:

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, Button calls, SB folds.

River: (4 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 5c 6d (straight, six high).
Button has 5s As (straight, five high).
Outcome: Hero wins 12 BB.

Most of the time, these types of hands are just splits. IMO, what you have to consider is the likelihood he will call without the one-card straight versus the likelihood that he can beat your one-card straight (higher straight, or boat). Further, you are in a situation where a 3-bet will gain you an extra bet if you are ahead, but cost you two bets if you are behind (Villian will only cap with a hand which either ties or beats the one-card straight). So yes, perhaps I should have 3-bet, but IMO its not as automatic as you might think.
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Old 12-30-2004, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: Those one-card straights--played correctly?

I dont 3 bet this either, if he wants to raise on the river with a weaker hand then encourage him to do so.

When you have him beat you pickup 1BB, when he has you beat you lose 2BB.
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