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Old 12-19-2004, 08:32 PM
dfscott dfscott is offline
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Default Is this one of those \"failing to protect my hand\" hands?

Hindsight is 20-20, but maybe I should've waited for the turn instead of re-raising the flop?

UTG+1 is TAG, MP2 is loose-passive.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (9.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB
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Old 12-19-2004, 08:42 PM
MoDOH MoDOH is offline
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Default Re: Is this one of those \"failing to protect my hand\" hands?

waiting until the Turn to raise is one way to play this hand but you don´t do that so that you can protect your hand better you do it because you will get more moneý in the pot...
On the river I think betting is the way to go but if MP2 really is passive you must fold to his checkraise.

If I play against loose-passive players and I have shown strength throughout the hand as you have here and then I get raised or checkraised on the river only holding a single pair,even TP, I almost always fold. Even HU...
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Old 12-19-2004, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: Is this one of those \"failing to protect my hand\" hands?

How would waiting until the turn to raise have protected you hand from MP2? The fact that UTG+1 folded for one more bet on the flop(!?) makes it unlikely that he would have raised your stop-and-go on the turn unless he had you beaten.
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Old 12-19-2004, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: Is this one of those \"failing to protect my hand\" hands?

No, it isn't.
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Old 12-19-2004, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: Is this one of those \"failing to protect my hand\" hands?

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Good. At the time, I felt like this was standard, but I've been in self-doubt land lately...
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Old 12-20-2004, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Is this one of those \"failing to protect my hand\" hands?

Few callers, kind of a small pot.

You played it fine.

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Old 12-20-2004, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: Is this one of those \"failing to protect my hand\" hands?

How often do you think an LP can't beat 1 pair with that line?
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: Is this one of those \"failing to protect my hand\" hands?

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How often do you think an LP can't beat 1 pair with that line?

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Are you suggesting that I fold to one bet on the river? Or are you saying I should've check/called?
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: Is this one of those \"failing to protect my hand\" hands?

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How often do you think an LP can't beat 1 pair with that line?

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Are you suggesting that I fold to one bet on the river? Or are you saying I should've check/called?

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And with that, another crappy player makes pooh-bah -- ugh! They should put warning labels on these things...
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