The Right to have a Gay Marriage

[adios]

I posted this in another thread.

What right are we talking about here? The right to have a domestic partner? I guess the thinking is that marriage is a right conveyed on heterosexuals and that same right should be extended to others who have same sex preferences?


Is that at least one of the rights we're talking about when we talk about the right to have a Gay Marriage?

[ThaSaltCracka]

I think so and in fact, that is one of the best arguments I have heard for gay marriage. It boils down, to me atleast, whether or not people are born gay or if they choose to be gay. If it is proven they are born that way, then they should have that same "right". If they choose to be that way, then I am not so sure they deserve the "right".

[eLROY]

Let's cut the crap. People are not inclined to get married. It is not people's desire to get married, but marriage itself, which has earned the respect of society.

When a couple is living in sin, we tell them to get married, so that they become productive adults raising productive children. Society encourages and rewards them for not sinning.

So when gay people WANT to get married, it is just for the money. But gay "marriage" hasn't earned anything throughout history, it is worthless. So as long as gay people don't transmit disease, we leave them be, and don't demand they get married.

[tolbiny]

What i am talking about (since i have posted numerous times on this topic) is the idea that once the government sanctions something for one group of people i feel that it is obligated to be sanctioned for all groups of people (when i say groups of people i mean consenting adults).

[tolbiny]

"If it is proven they are born that way, then they should have that same "right". If they choose to be that way, then I am not so sure they deserve the "right"."

Why would this make a difference? Is it ok to penalize a person's choice?

[Non_Comformist]

We penalize plenty of choices. So yes.

[ThaSaltCracka]

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Why would this make a difference? Is it ok to penalize a person's choice?

[/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I think so, because if it is in fact a choice, then part of making that choice is knowing that the lifestyle you choose will be one that doesn't contain marriage. Listen, I use to think it was a choice, but with some convincing by posters on here, I am not sure anymore. In fact I am a little bit more open about it now. I still stand by my statement though.

[adios]

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It boils down, to me atleast, whether or not people are born gay or if they choose to be gay. If it is proven they are born that way, then they should have that same "right". If they choose to be that way, then I am not so sure they deserve the "right".

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Truly interesting thoughts. I'm from the born that way camp but I don't think it's that black and white if you will but admittedly not an expert on the psyche.

[The Gift Of Gab]

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So when gay people WANT to get married, it is just for the money.

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Just like all those hetero couples who are infertile or don't want children, right?

[tolbiny]

Is it right for me to beat my wife? Yes, people already beat their wives.

But let me rephrase, why is it right to penalize this particular choice?