200-400 55 button hand

[mike l.]

okay 200-400 game at commerce. folded to 2 off the button who is a regular and like the whole table has a pretty wide range of raising hands. he openraises, folded to me with 55 on the button and i 3 bet, sb who is relatively passive but still a bit looser than one should be in the sb against a preflop 3 bet, and knows some standard tricks because she's a regular to, well she calls the 3 bet, and bb who is also relatively more tight and reasonable calls as well. other guy calls. 4 of us.

the flop is Q64. checked to me and i bet. sb checkraises, bb calls two cold, other guy folds, i call.

the turn is 2. sb bets, bb calls, i call.

the river is 9. sb checks, bb checks, i check.

comments?

[CanKid]

You didn't mention suits, so I assume they are non-issue.

Do you think you're ahead of BB on the turn?

SB looks like ace high

[Ulysses]

If the turn were a 9, would you have called?

Did you give consideration to raising the turn? How much? Would either of them fold AJ to a turn raise?

[mike l.]

"If the turn were a 9, would you have called?"

no. but im wondering if i shouldve even called the flop. or bet the flop.

"Did you give consideration to raising the turn? How much?"

i gave it a small consideration and then decided not to.

"Would either of them fold AJ to a turn raise?"

yes they both would fold that and bb would not have that. there's almost no chance sb would have that either.

[CanKid]

they likely aren't drawing to a 57 straight based on PF action, and you would of heard from a 53 when they hit the 2, I don't understand how you can call the turn after you said these guys wouldn't have AJ, and BB calls 2 cold on the flop and another BB on the turn, trying to spike a 5??

what am i missing

[Diplomat]

Mike has 6 outs on the turn, assuming his hand is not good.

-Diplomat

[random]

Do people not make hands in the games you play?

[J.A.Sucker]

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folded to me with 55 on the button and i 3 bet, sb who is relatively passive but still a bit looser than one should be in the sb against a preflop 3 bet

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This should be reason to fold the 55, especially since she's a regular in the game, IMO. Smoothcalling it is also a play I like better than reraising, and one that I would make as often as folding. You can be a floater here, and I like doing it.

On the flop, I fold to the check-raise and cold-call, since there's not too many cards you can root for, even if you're ahead, and I think that it's unlikely you are.

On the turn, I think if you raise here, it looks like a monster, and I like it best.

I like the free showdown.

[andyfox]

Would small blind fold a 6 on the river?

[J_V]

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Would either of them fold AJ to a turn raise?

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If a tree falls is the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?
Noone has AJ.

I don't like the button 3 bet. I think too often you are going to end up in a 3-4 way pot. And if you do end up getting it heads up, having 55 heads up against the early raiser, is only gonna net you a small amount of equity, in that he's out of position, but his 3-4 way, your equity hits the toilet in an aggro game like this, button or not.

Perhaps, a flop check was the way to go, and then make your money on making the right turn decision when the action gets to you.